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Should we bomb De-ash/ISIS in Syria?

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JessM Fri 27-Nov-15 08:30:52

Blair took us into the Iraq war (to keep his American allies happy) and the Middle East was de-stabilised.
Its even more unstable and Cameron seems keen to send bombers there,presumably to keep his EU allies happy (given his negotiations...).
ISIS/DEA-SH thrive on chaos. They are a death cult aimed at hastening the end of the world. (Day of Judgement, Islam style).
Given the chaos in Syria and Iraq with all the different factions on the ground and Russia joining the throng in the air I cannot see why joining in would be either helpful or wise.
The poor civilians on the ground are now in fear of Assad, De-ash/ISIS and the bombs.
Cameron's arguments are thin.
Here are some more arguments on the other side voxpoliticalonline.com/2015/11/27/how-many-innocents-will-die-because-of-right-wing-labours-petulance/
Your MP will be heading back to their constituency to think about this over the weekend.
If you are against the bombing please, please write to your MP.
You can use this very easy site. You just type in your postcode and the site will ensure that your MP gets your email. They will be getting lots of emails on the subject so there is no need to be long-winded, so it's a 5 minute task. www.writetothem.com

WilmaKnickersfit Wed 02-Dec-15 23:47:48

I was watching the news last night and saw a vigil taking place where tea light candles were being lit. For some reason it made me smile to see one of those ignition things you can get for gas cookers being used instead of matches. The trivia that crosses your mind. blush

rosequartz Wed 02-Dec-15 23:47:06

Oh what are we supposed to do then?
I suppose that some people actually get out there and help and don't talk about it or signal about it. Perhaps that is actual virtue, I don't know, would that be it?

whitewave Wed 02-Dec-15 23:43:33

God!!!!!!!

WilmaKnickersfit Wed 02-Dec-15 23:43:24

Thank you dj. whitewave I agree and it makes life much easier if you take people at face value. I'm doing it again. What a load of rubbish. A true cynic must have coined the phrase, unless it's more about insincerity? confused

Anniebach Wed 02-Dec-15 23:43:16

Thank you Wilma, yes it stayed alight for the whole hour even though there was a wind, comforting really,

durhamjen Wed 02-Dec-15 23:42:57

Off to bed now. I've decided to take my grandson to Beamish for the day tomorrow to avoid a newspaper.

durhamjen Wed 02-Dec-15 23:41:13

Virtual signalling, whitewave?

Anniebach Wed 02-Dec-15 23:40:21

Hi Jen, yes I heard when I left the vigil the anti war group in London were also doing the same as we did at the same time.

durhamjen Wed 02-Dec-15 23:40:17

Yes. I thought they were Community Support Officers, and I've seen a few of those, but these ones definitely had Civil on their shoulders.
Maybe it's just something in Durham.

WilmaKnickersfit Wed 02-Dec-15 23:39:55

Thought about you with your candle AnnieBach

whitewave Wed 02-Dec-15 23:38:25

Oh! Why can't we just take ea h other at face value- virtual of course.smile

It is so much more civilised and kindly.

durhamjen Wed 02-Dec-15 23:38:17

You sound very nice to me, Wilma.

WilmaKnickersfit Wed 02-Dec-15 23:37:56

Never heard of Civil Support Officers dj. Are they like Neighbourhood Wardens or Community Support Officers? confused

durhamjen Wed 02-Dec-15 23:36:36

Welcome back, Annie. The anti-war group outside parliament joined you in thought and silence.
Agree with you about the rest.

POGS Wed 02-Dec-15 23:36:00

Granny 23

Your post 23.17

Abid Naseer is one , or are you discounting him for some reason?

He was also wanted in America so he was sentenced there and jailed for 40 years last week.

He had planned a terror attack on the ARNDALE CENTRE MANCHESTER, fortunately he obviously failed.

WilmaKnickersfit Wed 02-Dec-15 23:35:06

whitewave I had to Google it and I think it means voicing a view that makes you seem like a nice person. I must now be the Queen of Virtue Signalling.

whitewave Wed 02-Dec-15 23:34:39

Thought about you annie

durhamjen Wed 02-Dec-15 23:34:04

Yes, Granny23, I have never understood why nobody has challenged him on that figure of seven failed terrorist attacks.

This morning when I took my granddaughter to school, there were two civil support officers outside the school, dressed in smart black uniforms with hats and holsters for their mobiles on their belts.
My grandson was convinced they had guns. Had a hard job convincing him that they did not have guns and were not allowed to carry guns just outside a school to stop drivers parking in the wrong places. They definitely looked more scary than traffic wardens.

rosequartz Wed 02-Dec-15 23:33:29

Whisper "what's virtual Signalling"?
There was a thread about it a while ago but I have instantly forgotten.
I tend to forget things that are not necessary these days (and a lot else too).

Anniebach Wed 02-Dec-15 23:31:46

whitewave ,it stopped raining tonight , my candle stayed lit.

Well vote went as expected. Now the mayhem starts , those who supported the bombing , MP's and public , wonder how many will spare a thought for the children we are going to kill in Syria ,perhaps as soon as tonight .

whitewave Wed 02-Dec-15 23:29:42

Oh what are we supposed to do then?

durhamjen Wed 02-Dec-15 23:28:05

It's what we do all the time, whitewave, when we stick up for the poor and the homeless, and tell people we do.

whitewave Wed 02-Dec-15 23:26:35

Oh! virtue signalling - whisper I still don't know what it means blushblush

whitewave Wed 02-Dec-15 23:21:45

Whisper "what's virtual Signalling"?blush

whitewave Wed 02-Dec-15 23:18:49

I can see so much potential for trouble