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Labour MP's harassment

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POGS Thu 03-Dec-15 12:56:04

For a while now there have been reports of Labour MP's being bullied, harassed by left wing activists. They have been threatened with deselection, sent photos of dead babies to put pressure on them to vote on Syria etc.

Yesterday during the Syrian debate many Labour MP's made reference to this happening and Labour MP John Mann called for Cameron to apologise for his words but also said the Labour front bench should also apologise for the harassment the Labour MP's were recieving. Labour MP Stella Creasy literally left the debate to go to her office as the staff were receiving phone abuse and there were anti war campaigners causing them harassment. This point will be refuted by those who attended so we must all make our own decision as to whom we believe.

I mentioned in posts last night how disgusting I think this behaviour is on the Should we bomb Deash/IS thread. I genuinely feel very sorry for the Labour MP's and to be honest I think there is going to be more trouble ahead if the Labour Party do not back their MP's a little harder than has happened so far.

What gives people the right to assume their opinion , their view should not be doubted, not debated and must be adhered to or they resort to threatening behaviour. It is not democratic and I agree with those MP's and commentators who believe this wave of activism is a backward move for the Labour Party..

durhamjen Wed 09-Dec-15 20:00:41

No, jane, if you do not want to read it, it does not matter.
It's quite sad, though, that no new writers will get your attention.
He's not a sixth former or junior school pupil. That to my mind is rather sneering, too. Many sixth formers can write very intelligently, as can many junior school pupils.

janeainsworth Wed 09-Dec-15 19:54:40

dj I prefer to read articles by people of merit and who have some reputation as good writers/thinkers. It is fair to assume that anyone writing for the BBC or one of the quality papers is probably worth reading. But any sixth-former, or possibly junior school pupil, can set up a blog. It doesn't mean they're worth reading.
As I said, I tried and failed to penetrate Chris Lloyd's deathless prose.
If you post links without any explanation, that implies that you endorse them.
Instead of sneering, could you tell me who Chris Lloyd is and explain the merit of his writing?

Ana Wed 09-Dec-15 19:49:13

Following you around, durhamjen? Ha, ha, you flatter yourself! tchgrin

Anya Wed 09-Dec-15 19:47:01

She's behind you tchgrin

durhamjen Wed 09-Dec-15 19:44:34

Hello again, Ana. Still following me around?

Ana Wed 09-Dec-15 19:39:29

Or indeed if jane or anyone else chooses not to read it it doesn't matter at all. No need for the rather rude 'can't be bothered', durhamjen.

durhamjen Wed 09-Dec-15 19:35:04

"But I’m sure very few of the Blairite bleaters and Tory twit-tweeters actually read the article. Certainly none of them took issue with its substance. They saw a headline that set their hive-mind going, in a setting — the STW website — that could be exploited to make partisan hay, and off they went. Of course, except for that first Tweeter, no one ever contacted me to find out if I actually was a STW “activist” or member, as they happily and witlessly repeated around the country."

8th paragraph, bags.
Blairites and Tories in equal measure. I do not understand why you single out Labour party members.

Janea, do you only read articles or blogs by people that you know?
Read the article and then you will find out why you should.
If you can't be bothered, it does not matter at all.

rosesarered Wed 09-Dec-15 19:23:09

Gandhi was hardly a saint, in fact a lot of deaths and riots can be attributed to him.

thatbags Wed 09-Dec-15 19:21:10

Gandhi wasn't above criticism anyway. Nobody's perfect.

rosesarered Wed 09-Dec-15 19:20:56

What about the Floyd who used to cook with wine? sometimes he even put it in the food! tchgrin

janeainsworth Wed 09-Dec-15 19:14:07

Oops! Too much wine
You still haven't enlightened me as to who Chris Floyd is, dj, or perhaps more importantly, why I should respect his views.

Anya Wed 09-Dec-15 19:13:11

Corbyn ain't no Gandhi!

janeainsworth Wed 09-Dec-15 19:11:29

You still havent

Anya Wed 09-Dec-15 19:10:26

Lovely Ann tchsmile

rosesarered Wed 09-Dec-15 19:07:16

That was to annesixty of course.

rosesarered Wed 09-Dec-15 19:06:46

Awww! how sweet is that? tchsmile

thatbags Wed 09-Dec-15 19:06:16

You are mistaken in your conclusion about my reading, dj. Please address the issue instead of sneering. Your recommendation of that article suggested to me that you don't approve of sneering, but perhaps that pnly applies to other people's sneering.

Check the eighth paragraph of the article where it says most of the people at a certain meeting were on the right of the Party.

annsixty Wed 09-Dec-15 19:02:21

I will see if this works, all fingers crossed!!

rosesarered Wed 09-Dec-15 19:01:22

You don't need to convince me Iam64 I am already convinced that STWC are a group to give a wide berth to.Corbyn should distance himself from them and condemn some of what they say.If he doesn't , then I'm not so sure of how 'pleasant' he actually is, hmmn.

Anniebach Wed 09-Dec-15 18:57:33

I compared Corbyns sincerity and philosophy with Ghandi ,

annsixty Wed 09-Dec-15 18:55:36

Anya I am truly such a technophobe ( I am very old and decrepit after all) that I don't know how to send a photograph from my new Kindle fire, but he really was outstanding tchgrin
I really have disrailed this thread, and do I care....

Iam64 Wed 09-Dec-15 18:47:02

Of course some genuine people will be involved in STWC. A number of my pals have recently left the organisation because of the ridiculous line taken about the International Brigade and what seems like minimisation and denial that Daesh/IS is a murderous entity which no one with a grasp of history could possibly support.

rosesarered Wed 09-Dec-15 18:35:36

I'm sure there are some genuine people in the STWC, ie.Pacifists, however there are also a mixture of bullies and loony tunes.

durhamjen Wed 09-Dec-15 18:22:59

You obviously only read part of the article, bags. Not surprising, really.

durhamjen Wed 09-Dec-15 18:20:14

stopwar.org.uk/index.php/news/it-is-the-war-party-that-has-a-reputation-problem-not-stop-the-war