Labour MP's harassment

Should you not say "If it were impenetrable nonsense"?

And you are insulting lots of us. I cannot understand how I managed to teach the English language for as many years as I did.

If I were you, I wouldn't criticise other people's use of language so much. It sounds so snobbish. This is, after all, just a forum for anybody, whatever their language skills.

"the rest of you"? Rather a large generalisation, pet.

I was really just complaining about people (one or two, max, I think, on this thread) who didn't appear from their apparent (mis)understanding of what I said to have read what I said then accusing me of not reading something that I had read.

I wouldn't call such a person an idiot. In fact I hope I wouldn't call them anything except wrong about what I said.

Which is what I've done, along with some comments about how to avoid such wrongness in future.

Straightforward debating.

If caring about accuracy and logical argument, and if refuting incorrect statements about me, is snobbish, perhaps I am a snob. That's not how I would define snobbery but you're entitled to your opinion, dj. This is not the first time you've sneered at me in a superior way.

If it were . . . . one would judge it.
If it is . . . . one judges it.

The second more immediate in meaning than the first.

I'd say it is often not language but comprehension and deduction that falters. Replies assume that something is meant or implied that is completely missing from the post, and can only be inferred by someone who already has a bias against that poster.

Exactly. Thank you, elegran.

Come off it thatbag, you are sneering and showing off , no different to correcting posters spelling mistakes , ill mannered at best . Try talking about the weather, far more interesting

These threads go from bad to worse on the sniping, carping and criticising front. No wonder a proportion of people simply don't bother to join in any more. It would be nice to be able to have a thoughtful conversation that respects other people's point of view without degenerating to personal comments that include ridicule. It's such a pity.

I agree, the thread is political but descends into correcting posters knowledge of the English language, yes wrong to respond but understandable, no one wants to be patronise

When there are misunderstandings, the use of language in the written word is important to clarify one's point. Nothing snobbish or patronising about that.

Such a pity, particularly at our age!!!!!!

No-one wants to have what they said misrepresented either, ab. Everyone makes mistakes in understanding, and typos, and grammatical errors, and spelling mistakes. The three latter are not so important (unless meaning is changed by them but it usually isn't) and I wouldn't presume to correct them. Being misunderstood because of apparent misreading is completely different.

It's also very common in all kinds of discussions by all of us. As is explaining what was actually meant when it happens.

I don't see what is snobbish or patronising if my reply to someone saying "thatbags said this" is No, I didn't say that; you misunderstood.

Other people do it, not just me. It's normal behaviour for heaven's sake!

No it is not normal behaviour sorry thatbag , what's wrong with asking - did you mean followed by a reply explaining what was meant,you launch into posts going on and on about your choice of the word of the day etc,

When I said I found your use of piss off offensive why not just say - I choose to use it ?

You don't have to read my posts if you don't like the way I express myself, ab. No-one does. You can't say it's forced upon you.

However, I'll follow your excellent advice and say: I choose to express myself the way I do express myself.

Same as you, no doubt, and everyone else on the Gransnet forums.

Funny that

Thank you thatbag

Eloethan has written a very good post on the previous page showing how easy to understand and pertinent some of the article by Floyd is.

None of those who said they could not understand it has actually commented on Eloethan's post. I wonder why not.
Isn't the message the most important thing?

Corbyn is still getting a lot of flack for his association with Stop the War, even in today's papers. This was the article that was disagreed with. However, it was not by stop the war or anyone connected with it, which is what Floyd was saying in the article I posted.
All some people on here are doing is showing how wrong you can be when statements are attributed to the wrong group or person, and the mistake is then perpetuated by others who jump on the bandwagon.

Floyd is by no means the bottom of the barrel. He's at least a few steps up from Trump, and a few others I can think of.

Jeremy Corbyn and Stop the War Deserve each Other

Just to counter the view from the Corbyn camp...

Thought it was a genuine link , just a Torygraph writer imaginations , pity

Funny, though! [thcgrin]

Although it certainly is a pity if it's actually quite near the truth...

If

We'll have to wait and see, won't we?

Yes but not in the Torygraphs reporting

You'd prefer a more left-wing bias, would you?

I am content with the truth