katie hopkins has done it again

soon, I am up to date with JW's, wouldn't use a search facility , so sneaky , I remember when I first joined this forum a poster ssying she kept notes on what posters said ! .how sad is that and rather creepy too .

Why would we want to double check? We are not opening our bank accounts to fellow posters, or giving them evidence to blackmail us. Do you expect to have your soul stolen for reading that someone doesn't worship in the same faith as you do?

A poster now living overseas who did live previously in Britain has said several times that there are Muslims in her family and that everyone gets on peacably together, - but she definitely doesn't attend often at a mosque, or any other place of worship.

I think others have spoken of Muslim relations, and some of being of "other" religions themselves, but I don't think I could identify them, let alone check whether they are really so.

This really is snooping. Distasteful IMHO

Ab. If you had a search facility, and if you were up to date with current JW, you could have worked out a lot sooner, that I am far from being one of those.

If we could double check, people, myself included would not make mistakes.

I dont understand why anyone thinks gransnet is remotely private. It just isnt.
There is absolutely no anonumity, and why anyone can possibly think there is, is beyond me.
It is like when there are reality shows, and contestants will swear blind they did not do or say something, when it is all recorded! When I first watched them, that was the thing that struck me the most.

soon, checking on posters ? why would you want to do that ? For quite sometime I thought you were a rampant JW but didn't post saying so ,

I don't think it is healthy to scour the search facility to find out personal minutiae about members. We are accorded as much anonymity as we wish and should respect that in others , not trying to build up a dossier of who may have said what and therefore is what else.
Smacks of intrusive.

It wouldnt Riverwalk. I was pretty sure she mentioned muslim and that some of her inlaws are muslim.
But as there is no proper search facility on here, there is no means for people to double check stuff on gransnet, hence posters have to rely on memory.

I will have a look at your diversity thread Alea.

Oh and what I said about non sequiturs

Bit of a learning curve?

See how ignorance can lead to false assumptions.

Because there are radical Moslems in London Trump asserts that there are No Go areas for the police.

A London member has previously mentioned that her husband is Asian so soon states

As far as I know there is only one poster on here who I think I am right in saying lives in one part of London, and probably goes into a mosque on a regular basis.

Why would having an Asian husband mean you go to a mosque on a regular basis?

I would welcome a lot more diversity too. Gransnet has barely any diversity

Given our anonymity who's to say??

However, to get us away from the manic Guinea pig I have started a thread on Diversity, so if you feel it needs discussion, there it is. Could of course sink to the bottom of the page . . .

I lived in London – the diverse, ethnically and socially mixed area of West London – from the day I was born until I emigrated about two and a half years ago. Where I lived we had a long-established huge Polish community, a long-established huge Chinese community, a long-established huge Caribbean community, a long-established Indian community (some via Uganda), a long-established, smaller (I think smaller but probably longer-established) Jewish community, and more recently newer arrivals from Somalia, other African countries and the Middle East. It certainly wasn't a a no-go area but a wonderful thriving community with fabulous ethnic supermarkets, market stalls, clothes, shops, fabric stores and a very strong sense of neighbourhood and community.

I have to say that as a lifetime resident of London who has lived in the city and worked in many parts of it, I fail to recognise Donald Trump's view of my birthplace – has he ever visited it – or that silly woman's.

Alea, I may owe you an apology about the profile bit.

I would welcome a lot more diversity on gransnet too. Gransnet has barely any diversity.

soontobe If, because I have said on a couple of occasions that my husband is Asian, you are referring to me, you are wrong. My husband is Hindu (appreciative of the philosophy but non-practising) and I am probably best described as agnostic. Neither he nor I have ever been in a mosque - but why would that be significant anyway?

I suspect that there aren't that many Gransnetters who fall outside the European white - and possibly professional female - category, which is rather a shame because more diversity might lead to a bit more knowledge and a few less assumptions being made. Some of the remarks on here though might well put any such potential joiners off.

East London - in my experience it is in danger of creeping gentrification. Transport, shopping and leisure activities were greatly changed by the Olympics and property prices are steadily rising. Soon it will be ranked with Stoke Newington and Hackney.
Wondering which boroughs I shouldn't be going to. Must ask my friend who works as an interpreter for courts and police (a Western European language in case assumptions are being made!) An older woman she goes at short notice to where she's needed, by tube and bus, at all hours. She goes where she needs to go - as do students, cleaners and many others, basically, Londoners just getting on with their lives.
Some people should get out more!

Eloethan. True, their patch is never where they live.
With respect nice post, but one person, even if they are police, cannot answer for the rest of the police force.

Alea, yes there is.

PS soontobe there is nobody on this thread who fits the profile you suggest so I respectfully put it to you that you are making things up/ fantasising / mistaken.

jingle and soon I've just listened to the piece in the Today programme that jingle gave a link for.

Neither David Wilson, Professor of Criminology at Birmingham University nor Simon Cole, Chief Constable of Leicester Police, accepted Donald Trump's statement - specifically linking his remarks to Muslims - that there are "places in the UK where the police are afraid to go".

Cole refuted the idea that there are, in effect, "no go" areas. There are, he said, areas that are more difficult than others to police. There are places where the risks change, e.g. at night, and common sense is needed for policing to be safer and more effective.

Cole said that throughout history there have been areas, typically cities - and he mentioned Belfast, Glasgow, Liverpool and Birmingham, where some people don't regard our police as the best in the world or see them as providing security and reassurance to the local community - they may at times be seen as an invading army - as happened with Operation Swamp in Brixton.

Wilson said that in Manchester there are police officers who may be armed in response to serious and organised crime (and he referred to the two women police officers who were murdered by such criminals). In such areas, there are sometimes significant intelligence reports warning that police officers may be potential targets - and police officers therefore proceed with extra caution.

He refuted the claim that police officers are told not to wear uniform when they are on duty. They are told that, when travelling to and from work, it is sensible not to wear their uniforms as they may be deliberately targeted. This, he said, applies all over the world where law enforcers risk being targeted by criminals and terrorists.

I knew some police officers when I lived in Lancashire and two of my son's longstanding friends are police officers - one formerly in London and the other still in London. As I understand it, their "patch" is never in the area in which they live, and I recall my work colleague in Lancashire saying that their telephone number was ex-directory because police officers did not wish their names, addresses and telephone numbers to be easily available to disgruntled criminals. That was 27 years ago.

Tedious isn't the word, ridiculous , more like, and if truth be told certain facile contributions have been largely responsible.
You will appreciate the term reductio ad absurdum ?

I am finding all this a bit tedious really.
There has been nothing on this thread to persuade me that any gransnetter can possibly decide who is right and who is wrong.

So I may leave it at that.

*How on earth can you say that only one GNetter lives in London and probably attends a mosque?
I thought we were all a) anonymous and b) if not, I can think of several who have openly stated they live in London. At least 10 off the top of my head and that is without checking profile pages, so there could be many many times that.*

There are only 2 names on this thread that I dont recognise as being gransnet regulars.
So it is easy to pick up quite a lot about us.
Yes, some live in London, but that is not what I said. I said "lives in London and probably attends a mosque". Which is quite different. And no, I am not going to say which poster it is. That is up to her to say more if she wishes.