Roy Greenslade on the Duchess of Cambridge and Sarah Vine

try this instead

What a cow that Vine person must be

It's a cheap way to fill a newspaper. Won't call it journalism because it's far from that. I'd love to turn the camera on these pundits and pick out all their faults and flabby bits and ask how they like it! Why do women do this to women, life's tough enough!

Sarah Vine is married to Michael Gove isn't she?

Perhaps DM readers out to take action if they think the journalist was out of order.

That's the sad thing isn't it mollie?
You would think we might have left all that bitchiness behind decades ago.

Sarah vine seems to be a fairly awful individual. I read some of her stuff on line and it seems to me she Makes a good income by being one of the DM's female columnists who enjoys writing negative, nasty comments about other women.
Yes, she is married to the equally warm and likable Michael Gove.

They deserve each other

She used to write a column for the Sunday Times, her byline photo was no oil painting!

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The Vine article is deliberately designed to invite comments - who can resist three public engagements a week, two young children, tired busy mum, etc.

It's not serious journalism.

It's the price we pay for free online newspapers!

I really like that photo of Kate. I think it's my favourite.

I like it because she looks fine and not dolled up.

She looks fine when she is dolled up as well.

I haven't got time to read the article atm, but I have taken issue with SV before now about her views on the older generation. I never heard back either from her or the DM.

I normally take the DM with a large pinch of salt, and I'm not a particular fan of KM either, but yesterday's diatribe by SV was appalling. I've been taking the DM for years and see it as more of a magazine than a serious newspaper, but this is the latest in the line of nasty attacks on women in the public eye. Last week it was women committing the heinous crime of possessing cankles.

I'm quite surprised at SV in a way because she has suffered problems of her own which have affected her confidence in her femininity (she has hair loss). I'd expect a bit more empathy from her.

And I've yet to forgive Richard Littlejohn for a vitriolic and underserved attack on Ed Milliband in the run up to the election this year.

Not clever, not witty, not sardonic or satirical-just plain nasty. Badly done, DM.

cankles?

Fat ankles, thatbags.

Oh (have checked in Urban Dictionary).

Thanks, ana.

Cankles, you learn something new every day on gransnet.

It's good to see consensus breaking out again in respect of the SV piece on KM. The DM has influence and whilst I don't often agree with its political stance, I do feel it's done some good investigative stuff in recent years. The constant undermining and attacks on women though, very waring. I felt the article about KM was unpleasant and unnecessary.

People do not realise now much of their characters they give away in what they write. Clearly sv has massive problems and a sad life.

Well, I have only read a bit of it and that was enough.

How do we know that KM is not still breastfeeding? How do we know she wasn't up half the night with a fractious child or baby? I know she has a nanny and lots of help, but sometimes a little child just wants Mummy. Most Mummies don't have long-range lenses focussed on them every time they go out either.

Oh, having read the actual article (only part of it, mind you!) I see she is pretending to sympathise whilst being utterly bitchy.

I've met her sort in RL

There are shelves full of magazines in the UK that are equally toxic plus lots of websites. They criticise celebrities endlessly for being too fat, too thin, lost their baby weight too fast, not lost their baby weight fast enough or committing fashion faux pas. The lowest point might have been reached when Kate M was criticised for her shape 24 hours after giving birth - I think it was in OK magazine but if you put suitable terms re kate and baby weight into google you get - bit surprise - vast numbers of hits.
I think this "you can do no right" criticism of famous women is utterly poisonous and misogynistic. Undermines all women. And probably boosts the businesses of those who prey on the insecure.
I hope Kate is confident enough to keep away from these publications and treat them with the contempt they deserve.
(Also a bit fed up today about coverage of the auctioning of Thatcher's wardrobe. There is no let up.)