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Cameron's Christmas message

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ayse Thu 24-Dec-15 09:17:36

Having read the headline perhaps Cameron can reflect on Christian values of faith, hope and charity and look to his conscience for guidance concerning the more unfortunate people both at home and abroad! Where is kindness, support and understanding in government policy? Is it really Christian to see people in poverty, the NHS a shambles whilst our leaders are revelling in their million £ homes and tasting all the good things life has to offer. Perhaps he thinks that charity begins in his home and doesn't extend further than his circle mates.

Anyway, my Christmas message is to help and support all those who are less well off than ourselves in whatever small way we can. Happy Christmas all and please forgive the grouch. (I'm an aetheist (spelling has deserted me on this Christmas eve) - I must be getting older!)

Anniebach Tue 29-Dec-15 16:02:42

I don't think Corbyn is into photo shoots , hope he doesn't change and start bottle feeding orphan lambs or hugging huskies .

I was surprised Cameron stayed on holiday when the Calais Crisis erupted

nigglynellie Tue 29-Dec-15 16:34:22

You can visit stricken people and show quiet sympathy and concern without posing with lambs and hugging old ladies or anything else that's clearly contrived. As I understand it, D.C had left Philip Hammond in control during that holiday, but yes you're probably right, and D.C. should have curtailed his vacation. I just think it's odd that no one from the other two political parties have visited the stricken areas or appeared even slightly concerned. They were though in 2013! Much nearer to the next election?!!! Seems quite probable and let's face it, that's politicians for you, no matter who they are!!!!

Anniebach Tue 29-Dec-15 17:03:20

Corbyn visited the flood areas in December, I don't see the point of travelling back from holiday , if in the country yes I think he should and would have visited this time. As for concern from party leaders, you know they are not concerned?

Surprised the windsors haven't been there helping with the sand bags as they did last year when floods hit the middle if the country

nigglynellie Tue 29-Dec-15 17:36:47

If they are, they certainly aren't showing it!! As for the Princes (I presume these are the Windsors you are referring to) Who knows where they are or why. Surely it's politicians we're discussing, D.C. in particular, not the Royal Family.

Anniebach Tue 29-Dec-15 18:52:17

We were discussing showing concern for flood victims. I have no wish to see anyone displaying concern,publicly, you do

gillybob Tue 29-Dec-15 18:59:44

I can't imagine for one minute "they" (William and Harry) will be sweeping, shoveling and sandbagging in York and although I appreciate the OP was about DC's Christmas message, followed by his apparent lack of Christian Values. I would like to say that many of those people in the public eye (including the royals) pay lip service to disastrous situations such as recent flooding but very rarely put their (own) money/resources where their mouth is.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 29-Dec-15 19:11:37

Who but ab would criticise a young father for not leaving his family at Christmas to bale out a few pints of flood water from someone's front room on camera? Why should he? hmm

gillybob Tue 29-Dec-15 19:20:04

Of course he shouldn't jings. I just wish people like Michael Sheen would keep their bloody big gobs shut, or do something useful !

rosesarered Tue 29-Dec-15 19:23:06

Bale out water with their big gobs? ???

nigglynellie Tue 29-Dec-15 19:30:04

As I've said before ab, you don't know the first thing about me or I you, so please don't presume to know what I would or would not wish to do - Thank you.
I think gillybob you will find that the P of W has contributed to to flood relief, though of course has not made a song and dance about it. I think quite a lot of people in the public eye generally do much more behind the scenes than we realise.

Anniebach Wed 30-Dec-15 09:49:30

A young father leave his family at Christmas to visit flood victims , shock, horror, I hang my head in shame at the suggestion . grin

No police officers, nurses , doctors, firemen, paramedics, farmers, road workers, plumbers, builders, soldiers, are expected to, are they

Anniebach Wed 30-Dec-15 09:51:23

I think Charles visits these areas because he cares and it's what the windsors use to do

rosesarered Wed 30-Dec-15 09:57:03

For goodness sake anniebach what does it matter who goes and peers at the floods and who doesn't?Both Cameron, the Prince Of Wales, and local MP's have all visited some of the flooded areas, it seems that if they do they are jeered at ( for daring to be , Conservative/Royal/ Posh) and if they don't go then ditto.?

Anniebach Wed 30-Dec-15 10:01:46

rosesarered , I couldn't care less who goes or doesn't , it was another poster who brought up Corbyn not breaking off his holiday to visit , I suggest you ask why it matters to her

rosesarered Wed 30-Dec-15 10:06:54

No ab it was one of your above posts which state 'surprised the Windsors haven't been there helping with the sandbags.......'

Anniebach Wed 30-Dec-15 10:33:48

Yes , in reply to Corbyn not travelling back to this country to visit the area . What difference me adding the windsors to the list if Corbyn is brought into it?

nigglynellie Wed 30-Dec-15 11:50:50

It was me who commented about Corbyn not visiting the flood stricken area. However I did not suggest that he came back from his holiday to do so, but rather that he had perhaps visited before he went, or asked another opposition MP do go in his place, apart from a anything else, think of all that positive PR, that has now been lost!!!!! On the other hand is it that important? Probably not.

Anniebach Wed 30-Dec-15 12:29:18

He went in December and perhaps PR isn't of importance to him, never has been

JessM Wed 30-Dec-15 19:22:58

Tony Blair was the king of PR and "spin" and JC is the opposite it would appear.
There was a video of him singing happy birthday to a woman who was flooded out and giving her a hug. Love him or hate him, you have to admit you'd have to wait a long time before you'd catch the PM or chancellor carrying on like that, singing and hugging people. Whatever next.
And here is the clip.
www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2015/dec/11/jeremy-corbyn-sings-happy-birthday-to-supporter-in-cockermouth-video

A few days later he was spotted standing in a shopping centre collecting money for refugees

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-dons-santa-hat-to-raise-money-for-refugees-after-losing-debate-on-syria-air-strikes-a6762536.html
Photos were by shoppers who put them on Twitter.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 30-Dec-15 19:39:45

Could be a bit stupid optimistic, wishing her a happy birthday when she has just been flooded out. hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 30-Dec-15 19:40:59

I think I might have dobbed him one-- given him a particular salute.

Ana Wed 30-Dec-15 19:48:10

It must be easy to play the self-effacing, modest and compassionate 'good guy' when in opposition. It would be interesting to see whether and/or how his attitude to publicity changed if he were ever to become PM.

JessM Wed 30-Dec-15 20:11:31

Possibly too old to change the habits of a lifetime.
Trouble with younger party leaders is that they do change, and change beyond recognition. Whatever happened to this fresh-faces environmentally-minded chubby faced chappie on a mountain bike, who campaigned on the slogan "vote blue get green" ? The only thing that is left of his green conscience is that scribbly tree his party use as a logo.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4953922.stm

I think he asked first jing. He's weird as politicians go, because he's so normal.

Ana Wed 30-Dec-15 20:41:51

You're probably right. Too old to change, and I think it's very unlikely that he'd be elected as PM anyway.

rosesarered Wed 30-Dec-15 21:11:14

It's unlikely that he would ever have been elected Leader, but they made a mistake and are lumbered with him now!?