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Times Tables by heart?

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trisher Mon 04-Jan-16 09:08:08

The government thinks that all children should leave primary school knowing all their times tables by heart. I did know them at that age but didn't understand what I was chanting (I thought it was a bit like a magic spell-I read a lot of fairy tales!!!), so understandably I think this is a waste of time and I am hopeless at maths. I didn't really understand what the tables meant until I did maths at Teacher training college. Children need to understand what they are learning not just repeat it by rote.

ajanela Wed 06-Jan-16 22:26:36

Footnote,
My daughter taught me to do the 9 times table on my fingers.
1x9 put down your first digit - your thumb - you have 9 fingers left
2x9 put down your 2nd digit 1 finger one side 8 on the other 18
3x9 put down your 3rd digit 2 fingers one side 7 the other. 27
4x9 put down your 4th digit. 3 fingers one side 6 the other 36
And so on.

Any more tricks anyone.

Anya Wed 06-Jan-16 23:07:00

Correct Lully one of the two KS2 Maths paper allows the use of calculators as it is more a test of understanding. I'm surprised a teacher didn't know that, unless she is not au fait with Y6 perhaps?

Anya Wed 06-Jan-16 23:10:56

Yes, note the number pattern in the 9x table

9
18
27
36
45

54
63
72
81
90

She how the units column goes down in ones and the tens column goes up in ones.

Also half way through the numbers are reversed eg 45 54; 36. 63; 27 72... etc it's a lovely table to kearn because of this smile

Anya Wed 06-Jan-16 23:11:32

Best if you consider 9 to be 09

SheenaF Thu 07-Jan-16 08:33:51

I was a primary school teacher and now do private maths tutoring. Knowing the times tables is something I always taught, and not just by rote though this is invaluable for quick recall. Reciting them out loud and rhythmically is a really good way, and I still recommend to my private pupils to do this whilst walking along - like Shizam.
At age 10/11 we recited tables every day, including all the (non metric) measurements (22 yards - one chain, 10 chains one furlong etc) weights and fractions of £1.
Teaching these days should take into account modern technology and the ways we use it - anyone with a mobile phone usually has access to a calculator - but it also needs to be understood, and this is a major aspect of what I teach these days - applying your knowledge to everyday situations.

SheenaF Thu 07-Jan-16 08:41:47

BTW Anya I think KS2 tests are both non calculator papers these days

Anya Thu 07-Jan-16 08:48:25

Yes, I believe it was removed in 2014 for levels 3-5. Though still allowed at level 6 perhaps?

SheenaF Thu 07-Jan-16 08:55:40

Yes, one of the Level 6 papers allows a calculator

AQuatro Thu 07-Apr-16 11:34:51

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LullyDully Thu 07-Apr-16 12:14:14

There are lots of YouTube tricks for learning tables. Depends on a child's learning style. Some can sing them to learn, cds available .

.What ever happens, learning tables is vital and is certainly labour intensive. No easy route unless a child has a photographic memory. IMO.