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David Cameron pledges 'assault on poverty' with social reforms

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Elegran Mon 11-Jan-16 15:20:19

Stop press

Anniebach Tue 19-Jan-16 18:08:20

Exactly so Elegran , there was no need for him to word it as he should, more concerned with sounding tough, he knows nothing of the carrot or the stick

durhamjen Tue 19-Jan-16 18:44:17

Cameron announced his proposition in an article in The Times.
I wonder why he chose that? It's behind a paywall. Owned by Murdoch.
You should be able to read it online, Elegran, if you want to comment on it further. Otherwise, there's no point in you commenting as you refuse to read anything other than the original.
Note he did not say it in the commons. He rarely does, these days.
However, he'll have to account for it in PMQs tomorrow. A shame you will not be able to watch it.
I watch as much news on my laptop as I do on television these days. Have you never thought of doing that, Elegran?

Elegran Tue 19-Jan-16 20:05:15

Exact wording is important (including the "prefer" in my post, rather than "refuse to read any other than") so could anyone throw any light on whether the words used were "could affect your ability to stay" or "would affect your ability to stay" ?

If anyone wonders why I prefer to read the exact words used, then pondering the difference in meaning between these two versions should show you why.

Ana Tue 19-Jan-16 20:10:51

Exactly, Elegran.

As for the article in The Times, presumably it's not possible to copy and paste any extracts even if someone has paid to view it online.

Have we any Times newspaper readers on here who could provide the actual wording, I wonder...?

durhamjen Tue 19-Jan-16 20:22:04

So you still haven't read it then, Elegran.

This is just a load of grans discussing things. What we say on here does not count, as far as this government is concerned.
I gave up teaching formal English years ago.

Ana Tue 19-Jan-16 20:32:08

What has 'formal English' got to do with using the correct word in a quote? Surely you understand that there's a difference between 'could' and 'would'?

Especially as you say you used to teach English.

rosesarered Tue 19-Jan-16 22:17:53

Rather like the words 'own my own home' and 'live in my own home'.

Ana Tue 19-Jan-16 22:19:51

grin

durhamjen Tue 19-Jan-16 22:47:09

" Research by the Building Research Establishment in 2015 found that 8.4m homes in England have a significant hazard. The annual cost to the NHS of these hazards is thought to be around £2bn in England and £2.5bn for the UK as a whole.

Buck said tenants should be given the right to sue over uninhabitable conditions because enforcement levels were too low overall. “Some local authorities do this very well, but there is a lack of consistency. We need to complement what local authorities do with a power for tenants.”

It is understood that amendments may be tabled to the government’s controversial housing and planning bill, giving tenants the right to sue, when the legislation passes through the House of Lords."

At least the house of Lords are going to try and stick up for tenants, as the Tories talked out Karen Buck's Bill.