Demolishing housing estates

Yes indeed, glad you agree. Hopefully it will be better managed than by the Labour government.

Well, good old Cameron. He's come up with a plan that the Labour government had and he put a stop to. Clever him!

Possibly because it was such a shambles under John Prescott?

You're not listening, roses.
The Labour government did. The Tories put a stop to it in 2011.

If Cameron thinks it's a good idea now, why did he stop it in 2011 and allow all those estates to become blighted?
Why do you think it's a good idea now, but it wasn't before?
If it was always a good idea, why are you not criticising Cameron for stopping it in 2011?

Yes I'm sure if JC had come up with this plan it would have been applauded as a wonderful idea by those on the left.

The PM said local councils and residents would be involved in the process which would "make sure that tenants get good homes, make sure homeowners get rehoused in new houses".

(quote from PMQs today)

You don't seriously think a whole estate would be bulldozed at once do you?
It would be done bit by bit I expect, and accommodation would have to be found locally for tenants.It shouldn't be beyond the realms of fantasy for this to happen, it takes money that's all.Cameron said today that councils would be working with tenants and owners , and it would happen with their consent.I say again, that if a Labour government had come up with a plan for regeneration it would be applauded.

You are so wrong Rosesarered, I am one socialist who would say the the same if a labour government came up with this stupid idea of moving people out of their homes at a time when there a such a serious housing shortage and say they would not guarantee the tenants could move back into the new homes . I would expect an explanation of where the tenants would live and assurance they would be allowed to move into the new buildings .

You explain where people on a large estate in a city could expect to be moved to and keep their jobs

sorry, didn't read the whole thread
I just remember a Panorama programme about the Pathfinder project, and this sounded similar.

As I have just explained, Jalima, it would have been okay for lots of homeowners in Hull, like my sister. Cameron put a stop to it in 2011.

www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2016/jan/05/expert-views-housing-bill-end-affordable-housing

janeainsworth that sounds as if your council has the right idea.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_Market_Renewal_Initiative

I do hope it doesn't end up like the Pathfinder project of New Labour under John Prescott and Yvette Cooper.

My husband designed council houses in the 60s. As Jane says, they are not all bad.
One thing that they used to do was to build new houses first, then demolish those past redemption. Makes much more sense, even you should agree, roses.
Some he designed were in Peterborough for London overspill. We lived in one ourselves for a year. We also lived on Bransholme estate in Hull in the 80s for six months, at the time the largest council estate in Europe. The house was excellent.

Where my sister lives in Hull, their street was due for demolition five years ago. The coalition government put a stop to it by withdrawing the finance.
Many of the houses were owned, some rented. Now most of them are rented, and only a few owned. The prices have reduced by 50% in that time.
It's not a sink estate, but has been blighted by the government withdrawing the finance, and the owners not knowing what is happening over the last five years. It was planned under the Labour government.
The people were going to be given other houses to live in, half the houses were to be pulled down, giving the ones left gardens instead of back yards. The scheme looked excellent. Then the original owners were to be given the choice of staying where they were or moving back into their houses.

So actually I do know a bit about what I am talking about. I do not just label all council housing as sink estates. I know how much planning goes into these ideas.
I know that if Cameron allowed the councils the money, they could do the job properly instead of just mouthing platitudes.

However, Newcastle and Hull are part of the Northern powerhouse. They will not get any money to do anything sensible until just before the next election.

I am all for good political debate, but this attitude to something that all governments would like to improve ( ghastly council estates) is surprising.Could it be that anything this government says is simply shouted down by some ( only some) posters? If a Labour government had announced this, nobody would have turned a hair.

Monica I'm not sure how long it is since you were last in Newcastle, but over the last 28 years the Labour council has steadily improved the housing stock. Some property has been demolished and replaced - one of my employees had her house compulsorily purchased and was able to buy a much better one. She saw it as an opportunity not to be missed.
Other tower blocks were redeveloped and are sought after by single people. The council has a policy of not housing families in tower blocks.

Sink estates, all that is good.....?

Wait and see? Wait and see for this stupid government? Wait until they've trashed everything that was good in this country and we're all serfs again?
Pathetic.

Me too roses - can't believe we'll have to give it up later this year...

I was not suggesting not doing anything. I was suggesting something else, which I listed in two posts above.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
Politicians have short memories.

Yes, no guarantees, even for sarcasm, luckily I have a few months still to go until that birthday, so must enjoy all the sarcasm that comes my way.

We don't know! No guarantees of anything in this world. Will have to wait and see.

Jane although anyone over 65 will not 'get it' .

But he said he will not guarantee the residents who are moved out will occupy the new buildings , so who will be living in the better surroundings ?

When the tiny terraced houses were demolished the new homes were built first

Oh well best not to do anything.* Lets leave everything exactly as it was. Just hope that poor quality council houses don't deteriorate too much.
Actually anything at all that this govt does or does not do is simply bound to be wrong! *sarcasm alert!

Well, it didn't work last time, I can remember how many of the people moving into the new flats in Newcastle were over the moon with their nice new flats. It didn't last long. I fail to see that repeating the mistakes of the past will work any better now.

How will the private developers demolishing and rebuilding these estates make any money if they do not include housing for sale? They will need to maximise their returns and private housing in inner city/city centres locations command premium prices.

Wait and see.