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Boris Johnson

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obieone Wed 17-Feb-16 18:55:40

I cant decide whether I like him or not. I probably shouldnt.

I also cant decide if he is playing fair about the EU in or out decision.
Is everything to him just about himself and his career, and that is why he is fence sitting extraordinaire?

POGS Sun 21-Feb-16 12:47:23

Thatbags

I think he could possibly be an 'Outer' and I think it will be to do with the agreement Cameron has achieved and the weakness over the UK's Finance Industry protection in the EU.

Who knows but as you say it will be interesting when he declares his decision but at least he has waited to make a considered decision, or so he he has given the appearance of doing confused.

thatbags Sun 21-Feb-16 12:38:51

Character assassination in all its glory. Oh well, we were warned hmm Doesn't make one eager to read further comments by the assassinators.

Apparently, BJ is going to "announce" his decision about Brexit tomorrow in the Telegraph. Can't wait [sarc emoji]

POGS Sun 21-Feb-16 12:31:43

He has joined a Gert big club then on both sides of politics.

Anniebach Sun 21-Feb-16 12:26:45

His is untrustworthy in his political and private life

Eloethan Sun 21-Feb-16 12:19:01

There may be different views as to whether a male (or female|) MP having an extra-marital affair is grounds for marking them down. I feel that if the same rule were applied to the general population then quite a lot of people would be deemed unfit to enter politics. If, however, I knew that a politician had behaved extremely badly towards their spouse and/or the person with whom they were having an affair (such as in the Cecil Parkinson case), this would affect my view of them. I don't see why offering support to a woman who decides to have an abortion is a bad thing - unless "offering support" is a euphemism for applying pressure.

If I were a Conservative, I wouldn't need to look at BJ's slightly tawdry personal life to come to the conclusion that I would not like him to be a leader. His record of broken pledges and questionable deals would be enough to put me off.

POGS Sun 21-Feb-16 12:07:45

Anniebach

You are correct you do not know whether or not Boris Johnson would never change the Abortion Law because you do not, as you now state, know what he likes or does not like. So by stating as you did in your post ' if he bocomes PM we can be ASSURED there will be no change in abortion laws' you were talking rubbish.

As for his infidelity I am not joining in with you by pointing out the names of other Ministers/MP's of political parties who have no different a track record just to bring some kind of unbiased thinking on the subject. Why, because to my mind it is not only crass to mention it as a way of trying to put over a personal dislike of a person but it is also a peurile exercise in how to loose others interest in what we have to say if tittle tattle/partisan politics is all we come up with.

Anniebach Sun 21-Feb-16 11:10:37

I don't know Boris Johnson to like or dislike, I don't think any comments on a man who has a record of affairs and supporting a mistress to have an abortion is a crass comment

POGS Sun 21-Feb-16 11:06:38

Anniebach

Why did you say if Boris Johnson becomes PM we will see no change in the abortion laws?

It seems to me there are some crass posts by those who appear to have a vehement dislike of Boris Johnson. Surprised, sadly not.

Anniebach Sun 21-Feb-16 11:00:39

Still a comment I can make, I spoke of abortion

POGS Sun 21-Feb-16 10:59:11

Anniebach

Maybe because it is a comment that can quickly backfire on the user as various other MP's and indeed ' Ministers ' can be mentioned over their so called marital infidelities.

If infidelity is a reason to believe an MP should not hold their position then 'both sides of the House' would have a few vacant seats, back and FRONT benches too.

Anniebach Sun 21-Feb-16 10:21:47

Why is it an odd thing to say Ana?

Ana Sun 21-Feb-16 09:52:10

(that was to ab)

Ana Sun 21-Feb-16 09:51:42

What an odd thing to say...hmm

obieone Sun 21-Feb-16 09:49:54

Dont know. In?

Anniebach Sun 21-Feb-16 09:48:11

Pity he hadn't shown loyalty towards his wives , if he becomes PM we can be assured there will be no changes to the abortion laws

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 21-Feb-16 09:44:59

And what do you think *obieone^?

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 21-Feb-16 09:44:20

Yes, of course he will join the outs. But I doubt if he needs ab to make the announcement for him. hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 21-Feb-16 09:40:55

I'm glad he does show strong loyalty to his PM. And that he is reluctant to go against him, whilst remaining strong to his own opinions that tell him he has to. Decent bloke.

obieone Sun 21-Feb-16 09:37:39

DH thinks he will join the Out campaign.
He says he would not to do all this ta-daing and look at me stuff to..join the Ins.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 21-Feb-16 09:36:53

Crystal ball working well ab? I could have sworn I just heard that his column will be on the net around ten tonight.

Anniebach Sun 21-Feb-16 09:33:35

Johnson will, with a heavy heart and after days of agonising decide to join the out group, and not forgetting after he has waited to see which way he thinks public opinion is going , and has had meetings with Gove

thatbags Sun 21-Feb-16 07:51:11

And clarity doesn't hmm.

durhamjen Sat 20-Feb-16 22:57:24

Maybe I like a bit of ambiguity, Ana. It makes people think.

durhamjen Sat 20-Feb-16 22:55:18

"Johnson has managed to wring every ounce of attention out of his position of ambiguity. Even now, his stance is being decided not on the substance of the deal but on the political reaction. Will Cameron win the referendum? And how much support will Johnson lose in the party by backing a remain in the EU vote? Johnson will calculate the best outcome for him personally.

If the British people vote to leave in June, Cameron will have little choice but to resign and Johnson could be in pole position to take over as leader.

Of course, Gove’s decision to support exit makes Johnson’s position more difficult in the event of that side winning. If Gove is the senior representative of the out group and Johnson sides with Cameron, the mayor’s chances at the leadership would be diminished. Johnson now faces a crucial question – should he follow the prime minister or Gove?"

From an article by a professor of politics at York University.

Anniebach Sat 20-Feb-16 22:42:25

Boris is such an attention seeker, am sure he is enjoying all the - when will Boris declare , causing as much attention as the birth of a Windsor