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obieone Wed 17-Feb-16 18:55:40

I cant decide whether I like him or not. I probably shouldnt.

I also cant decide if he is playing fair about the EU in or out decision.
Is everything to him just about himself and his career, and that is why he is fence sitting extraordinaire?

Ana Sun 28-Feb-16 22:34:31

Eton mess? grin

NotTooOld Sun 28-Feb-16 22:32:49

Elegran - grin

Elegran Sun 28-Feb-16 22:29:59

Custard pies and jelly would be even better.

NotTooOld Sun 28-Feb-16 22:24:05

Sorry, Ana, I did not mean to offend - just a joke. This is becoming an hilarious thread, you must admit! I'd like to see DC and BJ throwing rolls at each other in a Wimpey bar. My money would be on Boris, I think.

Ana Sun 28-Feb-16 22:18:30

Oh fgs, what's with this 'surely even you can see that', dj? It seems to be one of your favourite put-downs.

NotTooOld, of course I knew that - but the post didn't make it clear what was considered worse!

Elegran Sun 28-Feb-16 22:12:36

It is a step better than trashing the room and not leaving money for the repairs.

You say they still behave as though they are in the Bullingdon. You mean they still trash hotel rooms and leave a pile of crisp tenners for the repairs?

durhamjen Sun 28-Feb-16 22:11:48

crossed posts, nottooold.

durhamjen Sun 28-Feb-16 22:10:35

What's wrong is trashing the restaurant in the first place, Ana. Surely even you can see that.

This weekend, in China, Osborne told us that there will be more austerity.
Somehow, I do not see a plane for ministers being very austere. Cameron could be out by the end of the year. He spent £100,000 on going to Saudi to pay his respects to the king - something else which was in the article.
I do not think that will happen again.

Gordon Brown dropped plans for it as he said it would be too expensive.
Perhaps they should follow him.

On the other hand, it is going to be able to fly over war zones, so he will be able to see for himself what damage has been done by the weapons he has sold to Saudi.

NotTooOld Sun 28-Feb-16 22:04:25

Ana! It's not leaving the money (they won't miss it), it's the trashing that happened first!

NotTooOld Sun 28-Feb-16 22:02:53

No, dj. I was a well brought up little grammar school girl really.

Ana Sun 28-Feb-16 22:02:39

What's wrong with leaving lots of money for the repairs? confused

durhamjen Sun 28-Feb-16 22:00:54

You also did not trash the rooms and then leave lots of money for the repairs, I hope.

NotTooOld Sun 28-Feb-16 22:00:24

grumpa - confess! With which one did you share a college? Were you there at the same time? Do spill.

NotTooOld Sun 28-Feb-16 21:58:21

dj - I expect you are right that you cannot compare the Wimpey with the Bullingdon. For one thing the Wimpey doesn't expect one to wear a penguin suit! You are certainly right that my parents (had they known) would not have approved of me chucking rolls about Wimpey's premises but I don't think I told them.

NotTooOld Sun 28-Feb-16 21:54:44

My post x-d with Elegran's.

grumppa Sun 28-Feb-16 21:54:22

I hold no particular brief for Cameron, Johnson or Osborne, though I should declare that one of them went to the same college as I did, but to say that they still behave as if they are in the Bullingdon Club (to which I did not belong) is a bit OTT.

durhamjen Sun 28-Feb-16 21:54:03

I do not think you can compare Wimpy's with the Bullingdon.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/camerons-cronies-the-bullingdon-clubs-class-of-87-436192.html

I think your parents might have been very annoyed.

NotTooOld Sun 28-Feb-16 21:53:50

Ha, dj, a link for every occasion! Did you notice further down the article it says this is a cost-cutting exercise and it will work out cheaper than the current arrangement. Hmm......

Elegran Sun 28-Feb-16 21:52:20

Found it. It is not being provided to them for their exclusive use, it is an RAF refuelling plane that is being adapted so that it can be used to transport government ministers. Most of the time it will be going about its main use. It should save more than the cost of refitting over its lifetime of use (The US president has a plane for his exclusive use, Air Force One)

"An RAF Voyager A330 air-to-air refuelling aircraft will be refitted at a cost of about £10m."

"The government says the move will save about £775,000 a year as the plane will be cheaper than chartering flights."

"A source said the PM's flights, using either Royal Squadron planes or long haul charter, cost on average £6,700 per flying hour and the RAF aircraft would cost £2,000. It would be available for refuelling when it wasn't in use."

"The prime minister's spokesman said the plane's "primary use" would still be refuelling and it would continue to carry RAF livery, but 158 new seats would be fitted and it would provide "secure communications" for the prime minister."

"A government spokesperson said; "As part of the government's defence review, we have been looking at ways to make better use of the RAF fleet to transport senior ministers and consequently deliver savings for taxpayers.

"We have decided to adapt one of our existing Voyager aircraft so that, in addition to its primary air tanking role, it can transport Ministers and it will also be available for the Royal family to use."
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34864328

durhamjen Sun 28-Feb-16 21:48:50

www.rt.com/uk/322699-cameron-private-jet-government/

NotTooOld Sun 28-Feb-16 21:48:15

Elegran - I don't think so.

NotTooOld Sun 28-Feb-16 21:46:35

Isn't the Bullingdon Club a 'dining' club where they just chuck bread rolls about and act like idiots? I seem to remember doing something similar in our local Wimpy Bar when I was about 14. OK, point taken about being stupid and stupid.

Elegran Sun 28-Feb-16 21:38:53

Do we really pay for a private jet for one of them?

durhamjen Sun 28-Feb-16 21:33:45

There's stupid and stupid, nottooold.
Cameron, Johnson and Osborne are the three most influential people in this country, and they still behave like they are in the Bullingdon Club.
It's just our money they are spending, not their parents'.
Private jet, anyone?

NotTooOld Sun 28-Feb-16 21:28:42

It seems a bit hard to hold being members of the Bullingdon Club against DC and BJ. How many of us did stupid things in our younger days?