Salford to ban foul language in public areas

And btw, I don't give a flying fuck if my previous post causes me to be called 'GN police'.

And do you know why 'fuck' is harmless why the 'c' word isn't? It's because both sexes are involved in F------. Not just one sex.

I can't for the life of me see how Saltford will be able to ban foul language. Will the police be called? will there be a fine on the spot? or what?!
Personally, at the risk of being metaphorically pelted with rotten tomatoes, I hate foul language, and find it offensive. I rarely go where I'm likely to hear it, and feel sorry for people who have no choice. Surely people can express their feelings without having to resort to f.ing and blinding? It sounds so ugly, particularly from well dressed, attractive, often young people. This of course, is only my opinion.

I hate hearing people swearing ,and the amount of people telling their childern to shut their F****ing mouths is heartbreaking.

When I worked in Tesco you could hear the childern using the f and c word to their parents and I am talking about 5 yr olds

I would never have dared to say bloody in front of my mum even when I was grown up.

According to the public order act of 1986, section five it is already an offence:_ Harassment, alarm or distress.

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if he—

(a)uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or

(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,

within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby.

Personally I hate it. My dad could swear like a trooper (I'm told) but I NEVER heard him swear as he deemed it inappropriate in front of women and children.

About 10 years ago we went to a massive Country Music event, which was outdoors, In Florida. The crowd were mainly 25 -35 and they drank a lot of beer in that time as it was an all day and night event. I can honestly say That I heard no swearing whatsoever from anyone.

I DO get offended by hearing it and I have asked people not to swear in public with varying degrees of success.

I have got to the stage where I stop watching certain TV series because there is too much offing and jeffing on them

My language can be pretty fruity at times, but I do object when some lout is effing and blinding in front of DGS.

How would you police it, though? Apparently it's illegal to spit in the street, but I constantly have to slalom my wheelie suitcase in order to avoid traipsing someone's phlegm into my house. It's also illegal to leave your dog's poo in the street, but I have to call the council daily to come and pick up what's left outside.

Foul language is offensive to very many people particularly in a public area where there are children. If we can identify ways of reducing profanity in public aeas then it has my full support. I know I have used such language in such areas then afterwards felt rather ashamed. If public notices or other ways of reminding us to consider others who find it profanity offensive then I welcome such.

Lets try to bring more decency back in to our society and not let children believe such language is the norm and quite acceptable.

Absolutely agree. Just don't set me off about foul language. I come from a mining area and never once did I hear miners use foul language when women or kids were there. They kept it down the pit.

nigglynellie give me one phrase that is quite as satisfying as 'I don't give a flying fuck'.

I agree that a group of teenagers using swear words in conversation between themselves is just 'padding' and is not meant to be intimidating to others who overhear them, but it is nonetheless offensive and inappropriate in public places. I believe teenagers will often use swear words because they think it makes them seem 'big'.

In primary school we teach young children (who hear their parents swearing, and therefore don't know that it is unacceptable) that we use some words in some places.

As for banning foul language in public I feel 'the discussion' is good and if it becomes highlighted as unacceptable (as is with adults hitting children), then we in society can hope to reduce it.

I get most stressed when I hear adults swearing at small children.

I don't like swearing in the street but you can't ban everything you don't like as it is authoritarian. Look at what has been censored and/or banned already: tobacco, alcohol, fat, sugar, the wrong sort of lightbulb, efficient Hoovers, sunbathing, carrier bags, coffee and so on. Some of these things are possibly justified but others, like fat, sunbathing and alcohol have definite health benefits and it should be up to the individual to decide whether to partake of them and the degree to which they should indulge.

Additionally, banning things encourages the puritans among us, the health police and the 'nannies' to go further and further and to punish the temperate for the excesses of the intemperate.

I would ban banning. Hooray for truth and liberty!

Jinglebellsfocks, I can't resist a challenge. You ask "nigglynellie give me one phrase that is quite as satisfying as 'I don't give a flying fuck'"

I'd offer the classic Malcolm Tucker: " Come the fuck in or fuck the fuck off."

Blissful!

How about, I don't care?! I'm not interested? Frankly my dear I don't give a damn?!! I'm not saying that I never swear, but effing and blinding particularly in front of young children, is not for me! Listening to young mothers in supermarkets cursing at their little ones is awful. Can they really not talk to them in a civilised way? Too much on TV, we just turn it off. I think it's horrid and that's all there is to it.

Jinglbellsfrocks, This isn't directed at you, but I love "You seem to have mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck"!
I was taught years ago by a colleague to swear like a trooper in French, German, Italian and even Russian, it's very impressive! I don't use that particular talent often though!

I'm another one who doesn't like to hear people swearing, but I wonder how Salford will enforce the ban? Will there be a fine, as for spitting phlegm in public places?
Our oldest son used to swear a lot and I struggled to stop him - I still don't know how he got the habit, though my ex, his Dad, used to swear. But when he got married and had children his wife put her foot down - good for her.

How about, 'I don't give a toss'?!

or, 'a tinkers cuss'!!

!!! nigglynellie! 'toss' is really bad!

I thought that schools were teaching RESPECT. I would have thought consideration for others was part of that. Maybe people know what is Respectful, yet some breach Respect in public places. Maybe we need awareness programmes, and encouragement for civility and Respect.

Like all swear words it can be construed how you like, but most people would accept that toss is a euphemism for damn, which is infinitely better than f and c, as there's no two ways about what they mean!

Have to say, I am with the council on this one!

Who will be enforcing this law? I dislike bad language, particularly on the street, but this is just a silly unenforceable law, the youngsters seem to use it as a matter of course, but not at home, probably something they will will not use when they grow up a bit. It is not nice to listen to but I would walk on by, more bothered by loutish and rowdy behaviour. I do wonder at people who pepper conversations with foul expletives, personally most people would give them a wide berth, I certainly would which no doubt would please them as well , as we wouldn't have any common ground if they thought it acceptable. If that's being a prude, I'm not, just like good manners and not offending people.

Me too!

I agree that it couldn't be policed I don't like to hear people using bad language in front of children but I think for those that do its normal language to them the no C word is worst I would rather people using mobile phones when driving be policed but for everyone caught doing that there must be a lot get away with it see people doing it all the time when out and about .

I would ban spitting in public and on the football / Rugby pitch especially when the game is being televised.