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Salford to ban foul language in public areas

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thatbags Thu 03-Mar-16 12:53:52

I agree, anya, that repeated fucks are very tiresome. I don't think hearing such from yobs does anyone any harm though.

Where do yous all meet/hear all these yobs? I can't remember when I last heard or saw one.

I have heard teenagers effing a fair bit but they were not yobs, just ordinary teenagers talking to their pals in non-offensive ways.

Anya Thu 03-Mar-16 12:53:42

Truly!

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 03-Mar-16 12:53:05

Anya great minds. grin

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 03-Mar-16 12:52:30

OMG! Man United fans?!!! They are the worst! CARI - it's your lot again. hmm

Anya Thu 03-Mar-16 12:51:03

Ah! Man U fans.....I rest my case grin

thatbags Thu 03-Mar-16 12:50:06

I have every respect for people who don't like what they deem foul language, printmiss. That includes self-respect because I also dislike language that is used foully towards other people.

I suspect that the difference between you and me on this is that I also respect the right of others to use language that some people, including me, might regard as foul— foulness would depend on context of course. Someone peppering their speech with fuck is not necessarily using 'foul' language; they may just be using it for emphasis.

As an example, if someone told me, or anyone else to fuck off in a rude way, that would be quite different from someone saying "Fuck!" because they'd just dropped a heavy hammer on their toe. The second usage is not foul in my view though it may be in some people's. It was that difference of perception that I referred to in my first post on this thread: what's foul to one person may not be to another. Who decides? Not town councils.

vegasmags Thu 03-Mar-16 12:49:39

Actually jings the proposed ban is to cover the Salford Quays area. This is a posh docklands development including the Lowry Arts Centre and the Imperial War Museum, as well as the BBC. This may seem 'rough' to Southern softies, but not to those of us brought up on clogs and whippets.

The area is also used as a short cut by Man U fans en route to Old Trafford and I'm sure they will all watch their language very carefully now! grin

Anya Thu 03-Mar-16 12:47:53

'And many people are no longer deserving of respect from others.'

Who? What? Why? confused

I'm not one normally for censorship, enjoy all the complexities of our language and am not above using the odd expletive when appropriate, but these foul-mouthed yobs only appear to have one swear word in their limited vocabulary which they use ad nauseam.

LullyDully Thu 03-Mar-16 12:47:24

I have been moved to remind teenagers not to swear in front of young children in hey ahe street. They are usually quite sorry. I suppose the trick is to be careful who you censure.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 03-Mar-16 12:43:04

Would shitey-poo-poos be allowed?

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 03-Mar-16 12:42:15

Salford is probably a rough old place.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 03-Mar-16 12:41:41

into. not onto. hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 03-Mar-16 12:40:53

I can understand this being applied to, perhaps, a group of loud-mouthed youngsters carrying on a conversation at the tops of their voices and punctuating every few words with a f******, but what if some perfectly reasonable person was walking along and say, tripped, or bumped onto a lamp post (it happens) and said FUCK! or SHIT!? Would they get fined? shock

Indinana Thu 03-Mar-16 12:24:16

I'm with bags. It is authoritarian. Yes it would be nice to think there was some respect for other people, but sadly many people no longer have any respect for others. And many people are no longer deserving of respect from others. It's the way it is today. Banning foul language won't change that. There are many ways of speaking and behaving in a foul and disrespectful manner without using a single obscenity.

And I'd love to know how they intend to enforce it. Perhaps they'll have posters up around the town listing all the banned words grin

LullyDully Thu 03-Mar-16 11:38:37

Good luck with that one!!!!

Alea Thu 03-Mar-16 11:17:32

About bl**dy effin time grin

PRINTMISS Thu 03-Mar-16 11:11:16

Oh! surely not thatbags, how about having respect for the people around who would prefer not to have foul language shouted and bandied about whilst they go about their every day shopping?

thatbags Thu 03-Mar-16 10:30:32

I don't think this is a good idea. It smacks of intolerance and authoritarianism.

Besides, what is 'foul language' to one person is not foul language to another. It is not for town councils to decide.

HannahLoisLuke Thu 03-Mar-16 10:21:37

I heard on the radio this morning that Salford is to ban the use of foul language in public places. About time! Other town councils please follow suit. Apart from the difficulty of enforcing such a rule I'm all for it. I'm sick of hearing this yobbish stuff shouted on our streets at all hours of the day and night in the presence of shoppers, children and the elderly.

I don't think I'm particularly prudish, I did find the TV comedy The Thick of It very funny and that was effing and blinding from start to finish, but on the streets, no.

What do others think?