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Fine line between spin and lies

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whitewave Sun 20-Mar-16 16:24:01

Over the past few days various lights have been shone in the darker recesses of government departments and we have glimpsed a very different scenario between what is spun to us and what actually happened.

In order for governments to have any sort of legitimacy, surely we should expect an element of truth.

M0nica Mon 21-Mar-16 22:56:17

Spin is not lies, it is putting the best side of any issue forward. It is what we all do all the time in our ordinary lives without even realising. We do it not to hurt people, to protect ourselves, to impress, all sorts of reasons, but we do it continuously. Spin can become lies, and in politics too frequently does.

Is the intention to deceive always unethical? Next time DGD offers to help me do something should my reply be. 'No, darling, go away, you will only get in the way and slow me up' or should I say, as I will 'Thank you sweetheart that would be really helpful'

absent Mon 21-Mar-16 23:02:13

M0nica Spin is not lies, it is putting the best side of any issue forward. Weapons of mass destruction [non-existent] less than an hour away [from Cyprus not the UK] and the dodgy dossier [cribbed from the internet] were definitely spin but I don't think there was a best side about them.

M0nica Mon 21-Mar-16 23:14:07

They were not spin. They were lies.

grumppa Mon 21-Mar-16 23:20:42

Spin is putting the best face on something for your own benefit or for the benefit of your client (if you are a spin doctor by trade). If you resort to lying, it is no longer spin, and in the end you will be found out, as with WMD and the dodgy dossier.