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whitewave Tue 05-Apr-16 08:38:06

We can't possibly let this slip by!

Tory on Radio 4 this morning arguing that we can't tackle the "treasure islands" that we have sovereignty over as it will lose people jobs!
I was astounded. So it is fine for the Steel workers to face penury but not those who help the wealthy to hide their money.

DC implicated - won't be long before GO is mentioned.

Nonnie Mon 11-Apr-16 17:58:13

Nothing like patronising people from the expert in so doing!

I think most people have ISAs, pensions or some other sort of investment and as I have already said for those who choose to ignore it, I was talking about most people. However, there is nothing I can do about people who choose to ignore what I have actually said and interpret it by their strange imaginations.

White I am fortunate to know nothing about Mr Corbyn's lifestyle but I was hoping for a reasonable answer to a reasonable question. Should have known better.

whitewave Mon 11-Apr-16 17:53:08

Does Corbyns lifestyle suggest that he has any other form of income.

durhamjen Mon 11-Apr-16 17:50:26

Oh, pat on the head there, Nonnie. Nothing like patronising people who do not have shares/ISAs, etc.

What we do understand is that Cameron is trying to change the rules to suit himself, as he has done since he was in power.

Nonnie Mon 11-Apr-16 17:47:24

Surely Annie no such thing is acceptable but it is up to the Speaker to determine which are against the parliamentary rules and deal with them accordingly. I don't think that agreeing with such behaviour does anyone any credit.

Annie you don't have any ISAs, pensions or investments? In that case you probably don't have any offshore shares but most people do and my comment was about most people not any individual.

I think it is easy for people to mock what they don't understand, finance is very complicated as is running the country. To take one issue and separate it from the whole is easy but often shows a lack of understanding. To say that this or that should be funded from the public purse without saying what should be removed to pay for it and understanding the implications of such a removal is short sighted.

Can anyone tell me if JC has disclosed anything other than his tax return? Has he denied having any other income?

durhamjen Mon 11-Apr-16 17:47:14

Troup only took over at HMRC on 5th April.
He was appointed in February. I bet that's an appointment Cameron wishes he hadn't made at the moment; to appoint someone who thinks that tax is legalised extortion seems a bit absurd to me.

durhamjen Mon 11-Apr-16 17:44:34

Get rid of Cameron and pals?

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/04/11/if-cameron-is-serious-about-tax-abuse-then-hes-backing-the-wrong-law/

Anniebach Mon 11-Apr-16 17:41:20

Nothing we can do about tax havens, Cameron agrees with them , if the PM doesn't want to stop them then nothing we can do

obieone Mon 11-Apr-16 17:36:11

I meant bigger picture as in the tax haven issue itself.

durhamjen Mon 11-Apr-16 17:32:59

The bigger picture? Over fifty percent of the companies involved in the Panama Papers are British.
That seems quite a big picture to me.

Anniebach Mon 11-Apr-16 17:31:32

Nonnie, no I don't think it right , but if it's acceptable to mock a MP's clothes then insults are allowed - depending who is doing the insulting and who is the insulted it seems

Anniebach Mon 11-Apr-16 17:28:30

Nonnie, I haven't shares off shore on in this country. I have no shares , don't want shares , difficult as it may be for some to accept, I have no interest in money, yes I need to buy food and pay my rent and utilities .

Nonnie Mon 11-Apr-16 17:27:08

Annie do you really think our parliament would be better if all MPs made that sort of disparaging remark? It is enough of a bear pit as it is without such nasty name calling.

Anniebach Mon 11-Apr-16 17:21:28

.obieone, I cannot take my eyes off the homeless , the disabled who have lost their mobility allowance , the high numbers eho depend on food banks, those forced to work with zero hour contracts whilst the very wealthy avoid paying their full tax

Nonnie Mon 11-Apr-16 17:19:39

Annie Did you read my post? You probably have shares off shore too!

durhamjen Mon 11-Apr-16 17:19:36

Boris Johnson has published his.

www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/boris_tax_summary_11-12_to_14-15_2.pdf

I think he's saying "so there" to Cameron and Osborne.

durhamjen Mon 11-Apr-16 17:09:03

What is your bigger picture, obieone?

obieone Mon 11-Apr-16 17:06:11

I think it is more important to the country, much more important, to look at the bigger picture.
Lets keep our eyes on that.

durhamjen Mon 11-Apr-16 16:58:07

That's a ridiculous comment, Nonnie.
Being paid £70,000 is quite enough for one very important job. I do not expect Corbyn to have more.
Osborne does not have another job. His extra money is from shares in his dad's company and renting out his house.
Cameron's extra money is not from another job; it's from renting out his house in Notting Hill.

One thing I did notice is that Corbyn has not claimed his state pension. He could have done so by now.

Anniebach Mon 11-Apr-16 16:55:42

Nonnie, if a person is paying their full tax in this country why do you think thry invest their money in off shore accounts ?

Nonnie Mon 11-Apr-16 16:49:15

A P60 only shows how much one has earned from one employer! Is that all he can find?

This is all getting too silly for words. Lets judge them all on "I think he should be judged on his arrogance, hypocrisy, disregard for the poor and vulnerable, etc etc" and the history of what each party has done when in office to stop tax evasion, how each party has done on the economy which is the basis for paying for everything. What they have done to encourage people to go out to work, how many jobs they have generated etc. etc.

While we are at it shall we name and shame everyone living in social housing who can well afford to pay a full market rent or buy their own home.

What about ex-MPs who have made a fortune out of being an ex-MP?

I could go on and on about ways to 'judge' other people but I don't do that, I don't judge anyone as I am far from perfect too.

Incidentally, I have some shares, shall I be pilloried too? Oh forget that, anyone who has a pension, ISA etc probably has offshore shares!

Anniebach Mon 11-Apr-16 16:29:32

Corbyn has released his P60 . Gross pay £70,695. Tax paid £1,8912 . Employer House Commons. He paid £100 fine for a weeks delay in returning his tax returns

Anniebach Mon 11-Apr-16 16:22:44

Dennis Skinner banned again, oh that we had more like Dennis , yes passionate but always for the vulnerable

Anniebach Mon 11-Apr-16 16:10:41

£3 interest ? grin how many more flying pigs

whitewave Mon 11-Apr-16 15:54:10

Loving Corbyns speech!

daphnedill Mon 11-Apr-16 15:44:51

Last one from me before I go out.

Just read Osborn'es tax statement. Apparently he made £3 interest on his savings in 2014/15. What??!!! Even I made more interest than that!

If he can only earn £3 interest, what the heck is he doing being Chancellor?