London Mayoral Election

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And most of the newspapers - but we expect it of them. This is an interesting chart.

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It really shows the problems Corbyn has to put up with.

I think that the BBC needs to rethink its political presenters. People like Andrew Neil drawn from a particular leaning publication are clearly not impartial. They need to get back to strict impartiality.

Interesting Jen. The BBC have been particularly partial I feel.

Was it "routed"? Bearing in mind the first devolved Scottish parliament's First Minister was the Labour politician Dewar?
Was it JC should have been involved?
Was it "keeping an open mind"?
Was it KH and the sausage?

Other than that, I'm

Yes I have given up listening to her I think she is showing her immaturity. But it has been quite dreadful, even if you are a Tory supporter it has been so partial as to be quite useless.

you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/sack-laura-kuenssberg

This is interesting, a petition to sack Laura Kuennsberg because she has not shown impartiality as she should have throughout the whole election coverage, particularly of Jeremy Corbyn.

the hypocrisy is seriously shameful and blatant...

Those French and Swiss posting on FB and all over know nothing, but zilch, nought, nada, rien du tout ... on Sadiq Khan apart that he is Muslim. Shameful and blatant racism and rampant Islamophobia. I will NOT put up with it- whatever the consequences!

I think you should start at the beginning Alea and see who was not being allowed to express a view. but it's OK.

islamophibia isn't racism, it's free speech, but condemning Israel for their actions in Pakistan is racist and not free speech

So we've been talking about antisemitism - but wow- the Islamophobia on the Net is just absolutely vile. Had several messages today on FB from Swiss and French 'friends' which made me feel sick- replied and then deleted them.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-elections-2016-results-in-full-council-seats-conservative-tory-labour-jeremy-corbyn-a7019041.html

Not many papers or people on here have mentioned this, though.
Hard to believe the Tories lost more seats on Thursday than Labour.
Labour won all the Mayoralties and both by elections.

Look at this, too.

"The Conservatives have also lost overall control of Elmbridge Borough Council in Surrey, where votes were not counted until Saturday. This was partly due to boundary changes which reduced the number of council seats from 60 to 48.

After the boundary changes and Thursday’s election, the Conservatives ended up with 11 fewer seats in Elmbridge, with their total of 22 councillors being insufficient for them to have an outright majority over seven Liberal Democrats and 19 residents association members who were elected councillors."

Serves them right for changing the boundaries.

It's worth noting that this was the first Scottish Parliamentary Election in which 16+ young people were able to vote. I wonder if this made any difference to the balance of power at Holyrood.

I am not telling you or anybody to have a different opinion, merely stating my own and asking why you take exception to my description.
Honestly, do you have to apply in triplicate to be allowed to express an opinion on these threads?
As a Scot I believe I am entitled to my views, my choice of epithet and my right to express them with impunity.

Nemo me impune lacessit, remember.

Politics has been changing in Scotland for as long as I can remember Alea mainly because of the anti or pro union stance. It would not surprise me if they ended up with a pro-union left and a pro-union right; and anti-union left and an anti-union right party but that is just conjecture. I offered my opinion - you really cannot tell me I should have a different one all you can do is present a different argument.

Just thinking along the same lines as the comment I read in the New Statesman

The story of the night, though, is the demise of Scottish Labour, which put in its worst ever performance in Scotland, it’s the party’s worst result since universal suffrage was introduced in 1928. The party’s vote share was down across Scotland, and the results are sufficiently poor that they could see them fall behind the Conservatives to become the third party north of the border
This from a party which has dominated Scottish politics ,mcertainly in my lifetime.
I'd consider that a "rout".
What would you call it? An acceptable setback? An electoral hiccup?

Alea routed does indeed mean "put to flight" but I just don't see it. Very little changed except that, when offered a party that were in favour of the union a number of people voted for it. Otherwise, very little change. Just my opinion but it was part of my overall opinion that this was quite a strange election which ended up having little to do with the old party stances.

I don't agree, whitewave, yes, the Independence referendum broke the rigid party allegiance of the past, but not every body who voted to remain supports the SNP and vice versa. The SNP gained most of its support from Labour in the last election as evidenced by the paucity of Scottish Labour MPs . You might have expected a similar overwhelming support in the Holyrood election or indeed a revival of a Labour fortunes given a new leader and the unpopularity of "champagne socialism. "But JC hasn't resonated with the Scots it seems and a down to earth plain speaking Conservative has been a breath of fresh air after the Tory landowning hegemony of the past.

daphne It's true there were some racist remarks in the comments section after the Sadiq Khan interview. However, on the whole, I think the vast majority of comments were very positive. It did amuse me that several of those who weren't impressed with the result accused Sadiq Khan of playing the "race/religion card" and and of fighting a "dirty campaign" when in fact it was Zac Goldsmith who had done that - and London rejected it.

I'm not sure it's necessary for the media to make such a big thing about Sadiq Khan being the first Muslim person in high office. The way they talk, anyone would think a Martian had been elected.

Oh! the in/out of the U.K. The voting is still reflecting, that which is why the Tories have done so well in constituencies that had the highest in vote. Labour unfortunately is paying the price for siding with the Tories.

Alea it wouldn't have made much difference Scotland is still fighting the referendum.

What wouldn't have "made any difference" and which referendum do you mean?

Yes! I do so hope he makes a good job of it, for all sorts of reasons. He will need to be strong as he will undoubtedly clash with the Tory government.

"routed" as in "put to flight"
www.thefreedictionary.com/routed

Not to be confused with the same word when pronounced "rooted"

It has to be 'may the best man win' in these things.