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London Mayoral Election

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JessM Mon 11-Apr-16 14:38:55

Doesn't seem to be a thread on this. Most GN members won't have a vote but we all have an interest in how the Capital functions and the Mayor's office has a fair amount of power over things like transport.
In the blue corner we have Zak Goldsmith child of Sir James and Lady Annabel, brother to Jemima Khan. Previous jobs editor of The Ecologist (gift from his uncle) and Tory MP for Richmond.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zac_Goldsmith
And in the red corner Sadiq Khan, son of Amanullah Khan, who worked as a London bus driver for over 25 years; his mother, Sehrun. Human rights lawyer and then a Labour MP Tooting.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadiq_Khan
How will London vote in a few weeks time? And if you have a vote - who do you favour and why?

whitewave Sun 08-May-16 14:09:48

alea it wouldn't have made much difference Scotland is still fighting the referendum.

Gracesgran Sun 08-May-16 14:07:52

Alea strange use of the word routed.

whitewave Sun 08-May-16 14:06:47

rose that is very magnanimous of you considering your many posts about Labour. ? Good to see some of us aren't totally blinkered.

rosesarered Sun 08-May-16 13:32:41

Yes, UKIP must have done better than they could have expected to do, and especially well in Wales.
Labour have done badly in Scotland, the SNP have taken over the Labour vote now.
Most cities don't feel that they need a Mayor, but as another poster says, London is so vast that it does merit one, that looks after the interest of Londoners.
congratulations to Khan, hope that he will make a good job of it.

JessM Sun 08-May-16 13:17:56

I think Corbyn is doing well for someone who never looked to be party leader and didn't expect to win the leadership contest. A small group of left wingers pushed to have a more left-wing candidate, to offer members a wider choice. Corbyn was told by his mates that it was about time he gave it a go and the requisite number of nominations was achieved at the very last minute. I did not vote for him as my first choice but since his election as party leader he has behaved like a dignified adult , unlike many other politicians. He has not tried to fit himself into a mould created by Blair et al, with every word carefully spun. He has brought large numbers of disaffected Labour supporters back into the party.
UKIP has taken a chunk of votes away from Labour without a doubt and coverage of the refugee/migrants crisis is helping them.

whitewave Sun 08-May-16 12:38:39

Apparently Corbyn is the only MP that has been arrested on an anti-semitism march. So much for those suggesting he is against Jews because of his stance against Istael.

granjura Sun 08-May-16 12:30:37

agree daphnehill- the vociferous and bitter minority though- shameful- but the votes prove them wrong. Golding and Liberty (what a name for such a racist party) are frothing at the mouth like rabid dogs...

daphnedill Sun 08-May-16 12:23:25

I understand that Joe Anderson, the Mayor of Liverpool, is reasonably well-respected too. I live in a shire county and we have a Leader of the Council and a Chairman, who does the same kind of job as a mayor.

Anniebach Sun 08-May-16 12:17:36

Some have become so use to ' David - I must get on camera Cameron' they expect the same of Corbyn .

Going to Bristol showed Corbyn is a leader who respects all members and acknowledges that winning a seat is important no matter what part of the country

Marvin the new mayor of Bristol was the mayor untill five years ago, lost in 2011so fought and won it back again for labour last Thursday

Alea Sun 08-May-16 12:16:57

Gracesgran you did realise Labour were routed in the Scottish Election?
Maybe JC should have got involved.

suzied Sun 08-May-16 12:13:50

Why "poor old Londoners having to have a mayor"! We campaigned for one for years after M Thather abolished the GLC. As a Londoner I like having a mayor who is focused on London issues- housing, transport, air quality etc. Both Boris and Ken have fought for London against the prevailing government in their own way. both had a hand in the success of the Olympics. ,aye smaller towns/ cities don't need a political mayor but London certainly does.

daphnedill Sun 08-May-16 12:07:48

gj, Have you read some of the comments on that Facebook page? It certainly shows that racism is alive and kicking in the UK.

granjura Sun 08-May-16 11:54:34

Great interview- spot on Sadiq- and yes, this is what makes Britain so great:

www.facebook.com/bbcnews/videos/10153594419862217/

Gracesgran Sun 08-May-16 11:52:09

I have been quite impressed that Jeremy Corbyn has stayed away and let the people running for Mayors get on with it and the person running the Scottish Campaign get on with it and will, I believe, let those running the EU referendum get on with it. How refreshing that we are not seeing the usual American style personality competition (except where the media insist on propounding it). It is what everyone has asked for after all.

Personally my view is that these elections were very much a holding process. Scotland is still influenced by their referendum and so the only party putting forward a "stay" in the UK made progress but otherwise little changed. I am very impressed, by the way, by the fact that the PR (ish but they are all ish) set up in Scotland has been done to deliberately stop any party having an overall majority unless they get more than 50% of the overall vote - clever stuff. In England and Wales little changed although the influence of the upcoming EU referendum showed.

Politics seems to have changed with more extreme parties in Europe and Donald Trump a possible (heaven forbid) in the US. I think next years elections will tell us much more but who knows what will have happened by the re then EU. For the Labour Party patience is a virtue; they do not need to play to the medias deadlines (which is annoying them). It is still four years until the general election and the party needs to use that time to prepare a real and thought out opposition in all areas that government affects.

Anniebach Sun 08-May-16 09:25:33

Duh, thank you grumpa , sorry Jess

whitewave Sun 08-May-16 09:23:22

See Khan has accused the Tories of using Trump playboy tactics in the mayoral elections. About right I would say.

Cameron tried to divide ethnic groups to win votes, there is a subsequent Tory rift over the campaign.

Alea Sun 08-May-16 09:16:24

Come on, anniebach, whatever happened to keeping an open mind?
If Corbyn had turned up for Khans signing in , the news coverage would have been - Corbyn didn't wear a tie / didn't sit next to Milliband who is a Jew....
Well, I suppose writing the headlines for yourself saves the hassle of going out and buying the paper hmm

grumppa Sun 08-May-16 09:04:56

Misprint for KH - Katie Hopkins?

Anniebach Sun 08-May-16 08:44:11

If Corbyn had turned up for Khans signing in , the news coverage would have been - Corbyn didn't wear a tie / didn't sit next to Milliband who is a Jew/ wallowed in reflected glory etc.

Corbyn went to congratulate the mayor of Bristol who is a Labour Party member same as Khan and surprise, surprise, London is not centre of the universe for the entire country , many are fed up with the Westminster bubble and all things London

Corbyn went to Port Talbot and the Tory business secretary chose a jolly in Australia . Corbyn has his priorities sorted out

Jess, who is KP?

Alea Sun 08-May-16 08:38:35

SK is a clever politician though. Correct me if I am wrong, but while he was among those Labour MPs who nominated Jeremy Corbyn, enabling him to run for the Labour leadership, Khan did not support Corbyn for the role, voting instead for Andy Burnham. Some contend that it was a move which allowed him to appeal to the Left of the party when it came to the contest to become Labour’s candidate for Mayor of London, a few months later. Riding on a wave of Left-wing “Corby-mania” and enjoying the support of some of Britain’s biggest trade unions, SK "came from behind " to see off the favourite Dame Tessa Jowell, a former minister under both Tony Blair and Gordon Brown.

I am all for him being "his own man" though and it was clear that ZG's campaign was a crass error of judgement on behalf of the Conservative advisers, ironically Sir Lynton Crosbie whose knighthood coincided with the debacle. I wonder if he would have been offered it if they had known then what they know now??

JessM Sun 08-May-16 08:25:52

Quite daphnedill the media are picking away at anything they can find to make it look like the Labour Party is in crisis and to snipe at Corbyn. If they can't find anything to say they make it up.
The victory in Bristol was also a landmark and Khan did not need Corbyn to turn out to swell the crowds in the cathedral, I'm sure.

Maybe KP could get together with Gary Lineker who said he would present a TV programme in his underwear if Leicester came top (or won the cup, or whatever they've done) smile

daphnedill Sun 08-May-16 08:18:28

Why do you think it's a positive that Corbyn and Khan allegedly hate each other? If you're not a Labour voter, why do you care?

Khan is stepping down as an MP, so won't have to follow the Labour whip. As a Mayor of London, his first duty should be to Londoners not his party.

There's a tendency nationwide for local politicians to be independents. I expect Khan will remain in the Labour Party, but he doesn't have to follow all its policies. Johnson certainly didn't.

It seems like yet another attempt to exacerbate tensions in the Labour Party. So what if Khan and Corbyn hate each other? Khan will have his own budget and sphere of influence.

Lilyflower Sun 08-May-16 08:04:30

Given that Goldsmith put himself out of the race quite early it was a foregone conclusion. Apparently Khan is next thing to a Conservative and he and Corbyn hate each other so there is a silver lining. Poor old Londoners having to have a mayor anyway. No one else wants one.

durhamjen Sun 08-May-16 01:21:45

Good to see that three of the other candidates for mayor are now on the London Assembly - apart from the Ukipper, of course, but there has to be a downside.
Green party and Libdem candidates are on it.

durhamjen Sun 08-May-16 00:03:30

indy100.independent.co.uk/article/this-is-what-britain-first-had-to-say-about-paul-goldings-stunt-during-sadiq-khans-acceptance-speech--bk6o17bBMb?utm_source=indy&utm_medium=top5&utm_campaign=i100

Brilliant comments on here about Paul Golding of Britain First.