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JessM Thu 28-Apr-16 20:37:03

There is growing pressure on the government to do its bit to help the EU look after unaccompanied child refugees, currently in Greece, Calais, Macedonia and other locations.
Some of them have lost parents during their flight. Some have relatives in this country who would like to give them a home if David Cameron would allow them into the UK. All of them are at risk.
It is thought that large numbers are disappearing - possibly being abused and exploited.
Please see this article in The Guardian, written by a Tory MP - one of the ones who voted against the government on this issue, earlier this week.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/27/refugees-children-at-risk-voted-tory-whip-stephen-phillips

Yvette Cooper and Alf Dubs are doing a sterling job keeping this issue live in Westminster. Yvette made a powerful speech - see link.

leftfootforward.org/2016/04/watch-yvette-cooper-shame-david-cameron-on-child-refugees-at-pmqs/
Here is a link to the petition being promoted by Alf Dubs and Yvette
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/128833

Iam64 Sat 30-Apr-16 21:39:05

I don't know enough about the arrangements made in France for unaccompanied children. We do know about the problems here, with unaccompanied children being taken into care, placed with foster/residential carers and then being whisked away

Ana Sat 30-Apr-16 21:46:02

What do you mean by 'whisked away', Iam64?

rosesarered Sat 30-Apr-16 22:01:45

Do we consider France to be a terrible country with poor living conditions? No, and nor would anybody.Certainly the adults in the Jungle at Calais seem to think so though, as they refuse to comply with the authorities there and become French citizens ( or at least to have their backgrounds investigated by the French authorities as a precursor to that end.)The boys/ teenagers seem to be of Afghan origin ( according to something on Radio 4) however not sure of the ages involved, hard to imagine French police standing by while children on their own live in tents there, but if they do..... Shame on them.

daphnedill Sat 30-Apr-16 22:08:10

Where did Radio 4 got the idea they're mainly Afghans?

Just wondering.

durhamjen Sat 30-Apr-16 23:06:50

"We’ve asked Save the Children for its most recent estimates directly, and are waiting for a response. The charity has previously estimated that a total of 26,000 unaccompanied children arrived in Europe last year.

Yvette Cooper’s claim on children sleeping rough in Greece is based on operational data from agencies working in Europe. A recent report from Unicef, Save the Children and Citizens UK claimed that there are around 2,000 lone refugee children trapped in Greece, well above the capacity of existing children's shelters there."

From Fullfact.

www.citizensuk.org/aid_agencies_call_for_urgent_action

JessM Sun 01-May-16 06:57:39

There is one gransnetter who fostered two boys from Afghanistan. I am very admiring of her.

Iam64 Sun 01-May-16 09:36:17

Ana - I read recently (daily mail investigative piece) about children who were taken from residential or foster placements and attempts to find them remain unsuccessful. I have direct experience of this happening to children who had not been born in the UK and had lived here only briefly. Child sexual exploitation is suspected to be behind this kind of thing.

Wheniwasyourage Sun 01-May-16 17:40:37

Bump

Anniebach Sun 01-May-16 17:44:18

Doesn't matter Jen, the children aren't British

Ana Sun 01-May-16 17:58:18

Thanks, Iam (so ^some* DM articles are useful!)

Eloethan Sun 01-May-16 19:21:38

Thanks for the link. I've signed.

durhamjen Sun 01-May-16 23:07:35

65,000+ signatures now. only another 35,000 and there could be another debate.
This time all the labour MPs should vote - no pairing.

SusieB50 Mon 02-May-16 09:31:27

Signed and shared ?

GranVee Mon 02-May-16 09:35:42

I've signed. To me there is no justification for refusing to take these poor children.

Anniebach Mon 02-May-16 09:46:53

Beggars the question, what sort of person can ignore the suffering of children Just shrug and say - someone else's problem

silverlining48 Mon 02-May-16 10:00:05

I have signed and hope this can be debated again.

angie95 Mon 02-May-16 10:47:35

Have signed, thanks Jess, It is so sad, what people have to think, is If it was our children, wouldn't we want someone to save them? Of course we would. these children have done nothing wrong, , They are caught up in a war. that they have nothing to do with x

Linsco56 Mon 02-May-16 10:50:29

I have signed. Well done for highlighting this here.

sussexoldbag Mon 02-May-16 11:05:39

Signed and shared. Thanks for highlighting it.

grannyactivist Mon 02-May-16 11:15:57

It was me who fostered the teenage boys from Afghanistan. One of them is now in the middle of an apprenticeship to be a plumber and the other is doing a BTEC in Business studies at college. Both have jobs when they're not studying and are paying taxes. smile They have hope and a future now.

Can you imagine being a little boy walking to school chatting to your friend walking alongside you - and then being splattered with your friend's body parts as a bomb explodes? How about having to hide to escape the Taliban as they visit your village seeking to press-gang you into joining them/becoming a suicide bomber? What about knowing that your dad has been captured by the Taliban and is being tortured every day? The trek over land and sea to safety begins to look like a more attractive proposition when these things are a part and parcel of every day life.

In the summer we'll be hosting more 'refugees' who will be joining us for holidays, they are in recovery from being tortured.

Please, please sign the petition. If you have doubts about signing go along to a refugee centre in your area and meet some of the people there - and then try to imagine children who are alone experiencing the kind of life they describe, and that drives adults to despair.

durhamjen Mon 02-May-16 11:16:53

66,000 signatures now. 199 in the last hour.

Does anyone else look at the map showing where the signatures are from?
It's very revealing. Some Tory constituencies have lots of signatures.
Perhaps Cameron should take note.

durhamjen Mon 02-May-16 12:41:43

updates.oxfam.org.uk/c/1OjRMDe2IrLXkZXEarZ7oJqSB

This is a quiz on refugees, to find out how much you do or do not know about the situation.
One of the answers in particular surprised me.

leeds22 Mon 02-May-16 13:39:25

My concern about Britain taking unaccompanied children from France is that this country's track record on looking after our own children in care is pretty bad (and has been for many years), you only have to look at the stats for how many of them finish up in prison. So how will we look after traumatised children from the middle east.

durhamjen Mon 02-May-16 13:42:18

Is that a reason for not taking them?
Surely we should improve things for all children in this country.

pollyperkins Mon 02-May-16 13:55:49

Signed the petition.