Should we be worried about right-wing populism?

Yes, I know they were my words. Thank you so much for reminding me. I haven't lost my marbles just yet, but presumably the figure will be lower than the 300,000 pa we have now. If it's not significantly lower, it will all have been a waste of time.

Nobody seems to know very much about what will happen!

Hopefully nobody will vote on the basis of any promises made or because they're just hoping, such as more immigration from non-EU countries or giving extra funding for the NHS. It's all pie in the sky.

Nobody knows what kind of limit will be put on immigration

Your words.

Nobody knows what kind of limit will be put on immigration, but it's highly unlikely there will be more immigration from India, because there are already more immigrants from non-EU countries than the suggested 100,000 a year. Farage's poster suggests they're not welcome.

For what reason?
You are voting along with the group that do not want immigrants. Sorry, but it does not make sense to me.

daphnedill Actually I am. I would think most Indians will be voting out.

More people come here from the Commonwealth every year than from Europe. So where is the discrimination?

We don't have uncontrolled immigration though. Nice to know you're so bothered about Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Jamaicans, Nigerians and Indians, etc.

We have uncontrolled EU immigration which discriminates against the Commonwealth countries.

We don't have uncontrolled immigration.

Just thinking, Daphne, if we leave the EU, all those bloggers from Europe will not be policed by the IBP, will they?

In that case dd, can you not see that it is unwise to have uncontrolled immigration?

Investigatory Powers Bill had its first reading ten days ago.
Second reading next week. Soon be law.
I think it has been altered a lot to allow for the free speech of academics, etc. Not many of those I read incite racial hatred. In fact I've signed loads of petitons to get it changed, and to ask my MP to ensure it's acceptable.

@dj

I agree with May on this. The Conservative government has done much to stifle free speech by academics, lobbyists and charities, such as the Trussell Trust, but there's hardly been a whimper. I actually agree with more surveillance of internet usage and I hope Facebook and Twitter can be persuaded to be more responsible. There'll be a huge outcry, of course!

The comments on the bottom of that link are ridiculous. Khan doesn't make his wife or daughters wear a burqa.

That's why relatives of mine ended up in the US instead of Czechoslovakia.

@obieone

You assumed wrong. There was a huge movement of people from Russia into German-held territories after the Russian Revolution, pogroms in various parts of Eastern Europe and the break-up of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Mainland Europe was an international estate agent's dream after the turmoil created by WW1. I can't believe that the concept of Aryanism escaped you.

politicalscrapbook.net/2016/06/ukip-members-link-sadiq-khan-to-burqa-because-he-wants-to-stop-body-shaming-ads/

Theresa May's new laws will allow the government to check what people write on the internet. Hopefully that will stop comments like those at the bottom of this.

Right obieone

Questions.

What does liberal mean?

It means a lot of things but the context in which I used it means that our society is based on individual freedom to pursue their interests. Of course it isn't a free for all as it can only work within the rule of law. All the western political parties agree with this to a greater or lesser extent.

Your next question.

I replied with another question because I wanted to develop the argument relating to far right identifying particular groups. Just as UKIP has been doing.

I can only assume from your answer dd, that in answer to my post 12.42pm, your answer is no.

Posts of 13.11pm

I dont think the two posts addressed to me answer the question? Either that, or I dont understand them.

@obieone

Why is it relevant?

There were no border controls as we understand them today. Geographical Germany had many non-ethnic Germans during the 1920s and 1930s. Many of them were Jews from Russia, Poles, Slavs or Roma. Germany was more tolerant than many of its neighbours, but that all changed in 1933. If you read some of the early Nazi propaganda, much of it was directed at 'foreigners', not just Jews, and was anti-establishment. It really wasn't that different from what is being written now.

OK let me answer that question obieone with another.

In the 1930s was there a number of identified groups in Germany that were not welcome?

obieone, Thats because thats where the jobs were.

Granny2016, Thats because the racist ones are stopped by the Welsh overlookers.