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EU - I'm in a quandary

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Riverwalk Fri 03-Jun-16 08:39:39

I can't be the only one!

I'm minded to vote out - the main reason being the free movement of capital and labour has resulted in a very low-wage economy and zero-hours contracts (gravy train, inefficiency, lack of democracy, vested interests, etc., also play a part).

However, how can I be on the same side as Bozzer, Gove, Fox, Farage et al - I wouldn't normally give them the time of day. Apart from Gisela Stuart I can't think of any politician I'd be remotely connected to.

Surely the Big Beasts in politics, academia & sciences, unions, etc. can't all be wrong?

As I said, a quandary confused

whitewave Tue 21-Jun-16 20:16:36

Stuart - pressure of uncontrolled immigration lowers wages. Not true a lie. We know that from all the evidence

whitewave Tue 21-Jun-16 20:17:30

Oh god it's tit for tat

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 21-Jun-16 20:18:54

I've had dealings with EU and what Gisela just said is not how things work.

whitewave Tue 21-Jun-16 20:18:56

Job losses on prospect.

Oh that is disgraceful Boris

whitewave Tue 21-Jun-16 20:21:09

pPay rises aren't dependent on the EU. Ask all the top earners.

whitewave Tue 21-Jun-16 20:22:16

We need a plan!

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 21-Jun-16 20:22:44

Boris is going to need to be controlled tonight to give everyone a fair chance.

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 21-Jun-16 20:25:06

It's the EU that stops our government of any colour from eroding those rights.

whitewave Tue 21-Jun-16 20:26:05

Stuart is in no position to promise anything with a nationalist right wing government looming

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 21-Jun-16 20:26:46

We do not bail out EuroZone countries.

whitewave Tue 21-Jun-16 20:27:15

Yes I heard Patel say that

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 21-Jun-16 20:27:49

So glad Pritti Patel's plans have been mentioned.

whitewave Tue 21-Jun-16 20:28:26

More lies

varian Tue 21-Jun-16 20:29:10

I am impressed with Sadiq Khan. Boris worse than ever

granjura Tue 21-Jun-16 20:29:12

Sick and tired to hear about Switzerland.

Switzerland has trade and reciprocal agreements with the EU indeed. To achieve this took many many years and at the cost of

- they must allow free movement of people from the EU
- they have to abide with all the same laws and regulations about all the exports to the EU
- on top of that, they have to pay massive sums to the EU for the privilege

- and worse- they have absolutely no say, nor representation, in Brussels.

Is that what the UK wants?

whitewave Tue 21-Jun-16 20:29:21

Lies again

whitewave Tue 21-Jun-16 20:29:49

Need a man with plan

whitewave Tue 21-Jun-16 20:30:43

The EU is the biggest economic block in the world

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 21-Jun-16 20:32:21

granjura when people mention Norway and Switzerland, most don't realise free movement of people is part of the deal. The Remain campaign has been poor.

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 21-Jun-16 20:33:14

Boris changing tack instead of answering the question.

whitewave Tue 21-Jun-16 20:34:46

Oh God Patel!!!!!!!!

Tegan Tue 21-Jun-16 20:35:15

I've had to leave the room; I was getting so angry...Boris smirking and interrupting all the time and using one soundbite after another...

whitewave Tue 21-Jun-16 20:35:47

Oh God Weatherspoons!!!!!

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 21-Jun-16 20:36:05

That wasn't the question Pritti.

Looking forward to hearing what the fact checking bods have to say.

Tegan Tue 21-Jun-16 20:36:20

By the way, did anyone hear the brexit lie tonight about John Barnes being a supporter..he's demanded an apology...