Trump as US president might be useful

He is a mysoginist so not sure how any female can vote for him.
No black, Hispanic will vote for him.
But he will get the red neck vote. Apparently he is guaranteed certain states, and will only need 4 on top of those to win?

But there were many candidates in the beginning[especially on the Trump side] so many, I cant even remember exactly how many there were.

What bugs me is that people vote depending on who looks the best, talks the loudest, etc. It's so elementary school. Many in the states don't want Clinton for good reason but to vote for someone just because you don't like the other candidate is not the right thing to do either. We really need a third party candidate but our system is really not set up to do that. Even those in Trumps party say they don't like him but will vote for their party. To me that is ridiculous. You vote for who will do the best job for the country. This is not supposed to be about you, it's supposed to be about the country. Just a Yankee's thought here.

I think people like Trump give money to most if not all campaigns, so that they have some leverage with whoever wins. Can they be a member of different parties too Rhinestone?

So people are fed up of the checks and balances. Sometimes it is hard to change a whole system.

The only contact I have in the USA wants Trump because she hates Clinton so much but her sister wants Clinton so I guess it's hard to pick if you don't live in a country.

As for Trump being a president we would be in trouble even if he used his advisors. I spent years teaching children to be respectful of others race and religions D not be a bully. Trump is a blowhard who is condescending to others and makes blatant racist statements. He is a bully and masogenistic in my opinion. He lies and says he never said what he is accused of yet there is video to prove the opposite. The only reason people will vote for him is that he's not a democrat and he says what people want to hear. But he used to be one and even gave money to Hillary's last campaign.

I became an Independent because I realized that I wasn't going to vote for a party just because I was a Democrat or Republican. This wasn't high school where you vote for the best looking or coolest person.. This is real life. I vote for who I think will do the best job. Once the person becomes President you hope they do all they said in their campaigns. But unfortunately we have a system of checks and balances so the President doesn't get too powerful. Obama has been stopped at every turn by the republicans who did not like him. What's made many of us mad is that the congress is supposed to represent what the people want but that didn't happen. The egotistical self serving politicians did what " they" wanted instead. Many feel we are not a representative democracy anymore. IMO the republicans were rude to Obama from the beginning as I mentioned before. They didn't work together as a team. The people are tired of the whole game and I think that's why Sanders has been so popular.
It makes me crazy to think of all the mo eye spent on campaigning for a year when people all over the world are sick and starving. Obama put in universal healthcare but it didn't end up looking like the original bill he proposed. So now people are bad mouthing it not realizing that congress changed it.

He can't be worse than the warmonger clinton

Hadn't thought of that possibility, anya. Hmm... next thought is miltary coup! Bloody hell!

I read that too bags but wouldn't he just replace them with those who'd 'follow orders'?

The comments about US schools are interesting - a salutary warning for us about the road our own educational system seems to be headed for.

Apparently some military top nobs have already said they will not obey certain orders from The Trump were he ever to give them. So, he is a threat to the American presidency in that way too: overturning the supposed authority of the president. Let's hope it never comes to this kind of 'mutiny'!

Yes, having to suffer a president like Trump might be a wake-up call to the USA to reform. George W Bush was a laughing stock but Trump is in another league completely.

Hopefully their various political institutions, such as the House of Representatives, the Senate, Congress (which I don't pretend to understand) and the 'military' will keep him in check.

And I don't believe those who say he's the AntiChrist (though I do see where they're coming from)

I never know how far you would or do go with free speech thatbags. And this may not be the thread to ask. And you may have been asked many times before.

But if you were in Hitler times, you would have been ok about him speaking?

I signed a petition not to have Trump banned from the UK. I did not sign it because I like him or agree with anything he says, or because I would support any Republican. I signed it because I believe in free speech. You don't fight bad ideas by suppressing them; you fight them by bringing them into the cold light of day and rational analysis.

I read the article and it's true, is this the best there is? I found this piece very interesting and informative and worth reading especially at the end. Why Hilary Clinton is more dangerous than Donald Trump by John Pilger, who is an Australian based in the UK. John Pilger has been a journalist since John Kennedy, and the first time I heard about him was in fact on Gransnet and have read a few of his links since.

I have been very disappointed in Obama, I thought he would be good for the world but he really is a war monger. I would never vote for Hilary Clinton, another war monger. I think Hilary Clinton is disliked by many Americans and they feel they have no choice and will do anything to keep Clinton from becoming President. I have read if Donald Trump does become President he will have advisors and people to keep him in check.

I saw Donald Trump say on television today that he will not have TPP, that can only be a good thing for America.

I am glad I am not an American, I think I would emigrate.

Nothing is more annoying than all the 'sheep' getting on the latest politically correct band wagon of hating/disliking Donald Trump which is obviously easier than actually taking notice of what is actually happening in the world around you, rather pretending what you'd like. One question - what is actually wrong with someone who dislikes his own countrymen being killed by Islamics? careful people you might be accused of being a terrorist sympathiser - until it happens to you.
Incidently for those who dont know when there was a parliamentary petition launched to bar Trump from the UK there was another one with a similar number if signatures - backing him - fact!

But I have heard it said that the USA population as a whole like it that way, to stop anyone getting too extreme. Perhaps they are right

It always strikes me that sometimes, leaders need to actually change the system, as you say Rhinestone.
But none of any party in the US seem to do that, or even attempt it.

PS Rhinestone - is Obama popular with ordinary Americans? Sorry if that is a naive question, I'm no expert on American politics.

Rhinestone - you sound like an Obama fan! Me, too. I've read two of his books and found he is an amazing person with some excellent insights into what goes on in the world. Shame he has not had more opportunity to achieve all he hoped to achieve.

NotTooOldYes I read that about Clinton too. She has enough of what the Democratic Party calls, Superdelegates, people in the party who can vote at the convention for her. They are pledging now that they will vote for her but they can always change their mind. It seems so complicated. The year of campaigning and speeches and pledges and commercials is all to much in my opinion. I think it takes away from our president and what he needs to do in his last year for the country.

Fascinating Rhinestone. thank you

President Trump -OMG!

Rhinestone - I was very interested to read your post. One of the good things about GN is that we can get a perspective on what citizens of other countries are thinking. I believe I heard on the radio this morning that Clinton has got the nomination or is about to?