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Abdication?

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rubylady Sat 11-Jun-16 03:28:00

Well, The Queen now is 90 years old. Do any of you think that she should abdicate? She looked today like she was falling asleep at the church service for her birthday.

Are there any 90 year olds on here still working?

Is it not time for her to put on her tartan slippers, wrap herself in her shawl, sit in her favourite arm chair and watch some daytime tele? Is it not time for her to let the younger (if Charles can be classed as younger if you know what I mean) to take over the lead of the country?

I think I would be quite upset at sending my mother/grandmother out to work at 90 years old.

durhamjen Sun 12-Jun-16 22:32:39

constitution-unit.com/2016/06/10/the-queen-at-90-the-changing-role-of-the-monarchy-and-future-challenges/

The queen doesn't have as much power as I thought she had.

POGS Sun 12-Jun-16 20:40:56

Sorry Anniebach I thought his fame ranked up there with the likes of Joyce Grenville for this kind of comedic dialogue , it's that era.

Anniebach Sun 12-Jun-16 20:32:51

Thank you Elegran, I read the thread several times looking for Walt

Elegran Sun 12-Jun-16 20:22:10

anniebach See this video for who Walt is. www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XDxAzVEbN4

POGS Sun 12-Jun-16 20:14:33

Jalima

North Korea grin.

POGS Sun 12-Jun-16 20:13:45

Durhamjen

Why do you think this thread is the next soops kitchen thread?

Jalima Sun 12-Jun-16 19:46:02

Perhaps we need Durhamjen to pour us a G&T - or just a T if anyone is TeeTotal
Cheers!

Anniebach Sun 12-Jun-16 19:43:52

Jalima, how much time do they need? I think Harry has found a role thst suits him , hope he doesn't stick to it for life . Sorry cannot agree that part time air ambulance pilot is his career he loves flying helicopters , forty hours a month is hardly dedication to a career. I think he loves family life and I can understand this, poor chap must have suffered terribly as a child , and I am not being unkind or bitching but I honestly believe he suffered emotional abuse . Perhaps after saying this I am being unkind in criticising his lack of willingness to work. Need to think this out

durhamjen Sun 12-Jun-16 19:42:38

"I almost feel sorry for you. Anyway, time for a G&T and read the Sunday newspaper. Goodnight all."

Hadn't realised that this was the new soop's kitchen.
Better stay out of it.

Jalima Sun 12-Jun-16 19:34:53

Who is Walt?
Anniebach lol

Jalima Sun 12-Jun-16 19:34:14

I am genuinely interested to know what country has a model of governance that the Republican posters believe we should adopt their model.
North Korea?

thatbags Sun 12-Jun-16 19:32:45

Thanks, niggly.

Jalima Sun 12-Jun-16 19:32:29

I do think they are lazy and probably fund royal duties boring, but that's the job, like all jobs a mixed bag
anniebach I wonder if HM has a say in exactly how much they do - it is well-known that she treasured her time in Malta away from the spotlight that being royal means, and which is so much more intense these days and possibly wants to give them that chance before royal duties take over their lives.
Possibly Henry would have preferred an Army life or may have emigrated if he had much choice or say in the matter. When he finds a role that suits him and his personality I'm sure he will carry it out whole-heartedly, as he did with the Invictus Games. Perhaps with William, it's finding the balance between carrying out the career he would like but having to carry out royal duties too.

They may have privilege but they don't have the choices that our DC and DGC have in life.

Anniebach Sun 12-Jun-16 19:28:25

Who is Walt?

Jalima Sun 12-Jun-16 19:24:00

I'm sick of hearing the cost of their dresses and shoes while so many others struggle.
II am sure many elected heads of state and their 'first ladies' plunder the public purse and I have no doubt that anyone we elected would be the same - even if we got rid of them they always seem to stay on the gravy trains.

Compared to some, the Royal Family seem quite good value for money and the Queen is very good value, pound for pound! I prefer someone apolitical rather than an elected person interfering with their finger on the nuculer button.

Besides which, HM and the immediate family are rich enough in their own right not to abuse the public purse; many of the others don't receive any money from us, the taxpayer.

Trump or HM? Oh, what a dilemma

POGS Sun 12-Jun-16 19:20:41

Anniebach

"I love my country with a passion"

Yes that is pride in your country.

Anniebach

Did you not make some derogatory remarks on a thread before about the Queens grandson last year when he was given the job. Can't be bothered to bump it.

POGS Sun 12-Jun-16 19:14:29

So far I am thinking there is no reply to my post of 16.27 forthcoming.

If you think the reply to Republicanism is to keep the Queen in place then I'm sorry but that is so laughable it just rings like a comedy sketch.

"You what Walt, the Brits want to topple the Queen and put in a President, why?"

"You what Walt they think a President will save them money. Do they know know how much Obama costs".

" You what Walt, the Brits think the monarchy and palaces don't attract tourists. Them Limeys never have understood commerce"

"You what Walt, the Brits think the Princes are lazy sods, Jeez Walt what do you have to do in the UK to make people happy, fight for your country in a war"

" You what Walt, the Brits have exiled Wills, Harry, Kate and the kids, Jeez Walt I'm getting a petition up for them to come to the US, Harry can lead our team in the next Invictus Games"

Anniebach Sun 12-Jun-16 19:09:08

.niggly, I am pleased for you, I cannot share your pride because I am not comfortable with the word. I am not proud or ashamed to be British, I just am British , I am not proud to be Welsh, I am Welsh . I love my country with a passion but love isn't pride is it . Wish there was a word to use instead of pride

nigglynellie Sun 12-Jun-16 18:45:36

ab, I said the Queen made me and others feel proud to be British, not that she made me British, like you I'm British because I was born here.

nigglynellie Sun 12-Jun-16 18:33:01

If you Google it you can find out exactly what Peter Phillips role and interest was in the celebrations. He did stand down as a trustee of a charity that will distribute the funds to quash any perceived conflict of interest.

nigglynellie Sun 12-Jun-16 18:23:10

They probably are thatbags, but we have to have a head of state, and I think they are and will be thinned out quite a bit as already Prince Edwards children are not Prince and Princess, nor are Princess Ann's whereas once they would have been. Over time others will marry commoners and cease to have a royal title and become more like Scandinavian or other European royals, probably no bad thing, but let's have evolution not revolution!
Incidentally I loved Arthur Ransome!

Anniebach Sun 12-Jun-16 18:17:59

No thatbags, it was said in the news how he has worked on this for months and worked through the the night last night .

Niggly, I thought the crowd were there to celebrate her birthday not to help them feel British. I have respect for her but she doesn't make me feel British, I am British because I was born here not because the queen is British

thatbags Sun 12-Jun-16 18:06:38

I agree that the royal family are an outdated, quaint anachronism but so are lots of other harmless things. Like Arthur Ransome's stories about the Swallows and Amazons, for example; when I ordered one of the books from a book shop the shop assistant said: "Isn't it a bit dated?" I replied: "Yes, but that isn't the point! It's a good story."

A lot of people love the 'show' and the 'story' of the royal family. The show and the story do no harm.

I thought the queen's grandson withdrew his business connection from the charity lunch when people complained.

nigglynellie Sun 12-Jun-16 18:03:44

No, not a joke. It may be a unbelievable to you ab but she does make a lot of people proud to be British, I think that's born out by the crowds and flag waving whenever she is out and about. I for one am very proud of, and grateful to her for all the years of dedication to this country and the Commonwealth. She makes me proud to be British. Thank you soop too.

soop Sun 12-Jun-16 17:58:51

I almost feel sorry for you. Anyway, time for a G&T and read the Sunday newspaper. Goodnight all. moon