The one indisputable FACT in this referendum debate

So just for purely selfish reasons, then?

'WW how can anyone NOT vote Brexit! there will be rather a lot of us voting that way come next week.'
well, roses...as I've mentioned before, those of us whose children have been advised by their employers that a 'Leave' vote could result in them no longer being in employment will vote to stay in.

I certainly agree with your last sentence GJ I don't think anyone expects not to be challenged.The manner of challenging though, is another matter.

roses- I kept very much away- as I did expect it too. As Tegan says so well though, whose twaddle depends very much on your own perceptions.

No-one can expect to post here on such important issues and expect not to be challenged on so-called 'facts' or opinions.

In fact, it may be the only thing we can all agree on.

I think we may all say that Tegan

One persons pompous twaddle is another persons informed information. Depends who you are and how you read it, I guess. I've learned quite a lot about politics on gransnet but, boy oh boy have I learned a lot more about human nature .

Well, Granjura perhaps Anya didn't expect a load of pompous twaddle ( but I did) and it always happens on these threads.
One week to go thank God.

I find I am having to question a lot of stuff now.

Too many people talk in slogans which were coined by politicians or journalists to act as a useful smokescreen.

The ridiculous slogan "project fear" was coined two years ago by supporters of the Scottish separatists who wanted to break up the UK. Warnings about the likely affect of the fall in the price of oil were dismissed as scaremongering - and yet they have been totally vindicated. The Scottish economy would be in a dire state were it not still part of the UK and given Barnet subsidies beyond the wildest dreams of people in the rest of the country.

We are seeing the same nonsensical sloganising used again. The Leave campaign use these meaningless slogans and dismiss the warnings without any thought for the consequences. Don't be fooled. Weigh up the evidence and heed the warnings before it is too late.

Yes Anya another thread bites the dust indeed.

The date of the article I can find is 6 June. Is that the one you mean?

WW how can anyone NOT vote Brexit! there will be rather a lot of us voting that way come next week.

Fact- large drop against the Swiss franc too in last couple of days.

Anya - another one bites the dust! What on earth did you expect, really- by starting yet another one???

Watching the Commons debate. How can anyone vote Brexit????

Call a spade a spade jing?????????

BBC news

God! There's some stuck up so and so's on Gransnet.

What is your source please whitewave

Even the poor, especially the poor, very much need a healthy economy. They rely on the government very much so. Much more than others in the economy.

The value of the pound has a huge effect on the prosperity of this country. The only way we can prevent it from falling further is to vote REMAIN.

All currencies the dollar in particular

Of course the wealthy will be speculating like mad on sterling and making a killing. Sod the poor they are deserving it.

My motto on GN is that someone tries to derail a thread by sniping then ignore them and move on.
Lots of conversations over the last couple of days.
The woman who said the EU was against her Christian principles
The woman who works in a hospital who said EU staff upset at the hostility of the campaign and planning to go home if there is a Leave vote.
The union rep who said that so many people seem focussed only on immigration to the exclusion of other issues.
I'm organising an event to publicise my concerns about women's rights in work, which are likely to be compromised if we leave.
Patel is already on record as saying she'd like to cut the burdensome red tape of employment rights and "help businesses create jobs".
The equation here is that you give your workers less holiday, pay temps and part-timers less, cut maternity leave entitlement and ditch the working time directive so that people can be pressured to work very long hours without entitlement to breaks etc. All of these would of course reduce staff costs and increase profit.
Of course many employers would continue to treat their staff fairly. But some would not. Would their profit be re-invested to create more exploitative jobs? Possibly. Or it might be just taken as increased profit and invested in holiday homes and yachts in sunny climes.
If there is a Leave vote and the likes of Johnson/Gove/Patel end up running the country they will not have to call a general election for 4 more years and could - no the WOULD - do incalculable damage to working rights in this country.

Against which currency whitewave?
Only the Euro. Or others?