Labour MP Jo Cox shot in Birstall

What draws those people to Brexit is what I would like to know, what are their hopes for a UK standing alone

The things that have been written (and are still being written) on some sites sicken me too. If the result of the referendum is really close, it sickens me that the people who have written such bile could be the ones who swayed the result.

PS. Sorry if that sounds like a plug to vote Remain. It wasn't intended to be, but it really disgusts me that that there are people who have come up with all sorts of conspiracy theories about Jo's murder and could influence the result.

I cannot erase this from my thoughts. Frightens me that hate can be so strong

It is truly sickening and shocking.
She is never far from my thoughts

I found out from another site what it's all about. Apparently there are different rules about the length of time the police can detain suspects, etc. The trial has to be heard by senior judges (hence the Old Bailey) and somebody said that police officers don't have to wear their numbers and ID (but not sure if that's true) and parts of the trial might be held in a closed court. Mair isn't being tried for terrorist offences, but I guess the alleged links to political organisations might have something to do with it and extra security is needed. There are also different sentencing rules for the murder of public servants going about their work. We'll just have to wait and see what he's already said and what comes out in the trial.

Don't know Daphnedill it's extremely long. Probably means that the police have a way of handling certain prisoners when they go to and from court.
We used to live near a prison. There was a month once when a police helicopter flew over every morning and every night. It became apparent that there was a sensitive prisoner being taken to and from court every day with about 4 police cars, lights flashing escorting the van, morning and night. No coverage in press. It was only when the case was complete that we learned in the press it was a high-risk prisoner who had been involved in a crime in which a machine gun had been used. It must have cost a fortune!
So this will have been some kind of protocol for moving prisoners who were thought might have friends with assault rifles.

Is it the same as this?

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Tommy Mair appeared in court under the 'terrorism protocol'. Does anybody know what the terrorism protocol is? I've tried Googling it, but haven't come up with a satisfactory answer.

It will last a long time in my opinion, such hatred is terrifying , not content with shooting and stabbing he kicked her she lay on the ground, I cannot erase this from my thoughts . Frightens me that hate can be so strong

Oh, believe me, the sadness hasn't gone....

Where has the sadness gone from this thread? So soon.

As you were people.

Hello Ceesnan. I enjoyed some of it. It definitely got better in the second half. I was a bit disappointed that the witches didn't do the "double double, toil and trouble" bit. It was done by the singers perched high above the stage. They sang all the music beautifully, but I would have liked the witches to have sung that. I have sent for a book of Shakespeare's plays as stories, so that when I see it again I will be able to follow the story better. Lady McBeth didn't speak up very well, which didn't help. The Globe is not the best for projecting sound. It all goes up and out. I would love to go again but it is booked solid!

Thank you for asking.

Thank you Jslima, I hope you will grant me the same courtesy

I remember years ago being trapped on a small road by the Quorn Hunt- so decided to get out of the car and watch- from a little hill next to the road. This posh lady who looked a bit like the Queen, scarf and all, came and stood next to me. The men on horses and red coats were all over the place, the dogs going crazy and she said 'What a wonderful viewpoint' and I replied 'Just depends on your point of view' - she turned and stared! So the grins and shocks will just depend...

well, hope it will be a
not a

jalima roll on Friday!!!

I WASN'T MAKING A COMMENT ABOUT A LINK I WAS MAKING A COMMENT ABOUT WHAT ANOTHER POSTER SAID SHE THOUGHT SOMEONE WOULD SAY NEXT

AND THAT ANYONE IS ENTITLED TO PUT ON LINKS

sorry to shout but no-one is listening

Anyone can post a link, post their opinion, ask a question,
Thank you anniebach

Jingle did you enjoy the Scottish play?

Perhaps it would be best not to make comments linked to links... unless you have read them, surely? To avoid misunderstanding? How can anyone guess that you haven't read a link, in a comment related to it?

The fact that you do not says a lot to me.

I said I had no opinion on it - so I could well find it appalling - because I didn't follow the link. I wasn't commenting on that at all, merely on the extension of what another poster thought POGS would say next. An assumption.

The fact you said that says a lot to me too.

Neither was I. I was commenting on the fact that POGS said she liked it. I was also commenting on the fact that I found her quote from the article appalling, and found the article appalling.
The fact that you do not says a lot to me.

Anyone can post a link, post their opinion, ask a question,

I wasn't commenting on whether POGS liked it or not, merely on anniebach's further assumption of what POGS does or does not think.

I am just arguing that anyone can put on links if they wish, type out parts of those links (GN will moderate if they see fit) but that no-one should have words and statements attributed to them they they did not say or post.

That's what some of us find appalling and is what you find appalling from the opposite perspective.

I did not say that at all, which just proves the point I am trying to make. about putting words into people's mouths.

I neither said I agreed or disagreed with the post.