Does a little bit of you...... (It's about that)

And time to stop denying that it's already proving to be a financial disaster!

Having watched events unfold all through the night and engaging with those who were insomniacs such as myself it was interesting and terrifying watching it all unravel.

Whether you, I, others agree with the vote or not we have voted using a democratic process and now is the time to accept the situation.

It is time to look sensibly as to how this is handled and the continuation of insulting others that is being displayed shows how little people have understood how damaging this has been, possibly had an effect on the out come of the vote. It is time for rationality to take hold and fear mongering to stop and a progressive way of thinking to take
precedence, too much to ask, I hope not.

Not surprised Gibraltar cititzen do feel very uncomfortable at the moment- good luck.

Many young expats in Switzerland who have been here for years will be applying for Swiss citizenship as soon as they can- for the same reasons- the future of their children. One couple has got in touch today to organise intensive French lessons to facilitate the process as soon as they become elegible next Spring.

My son lives and works in Gibraltar he and his little family are distressed and not a little scared of what this could mean for them.

Our 2 daughters have Swiss nationality as well as British- daughter will go to Embassy next week to register her DH and the children for Swiss nationality too- they are lucky as this will give them a backdoor to Europe. Most won't have that chance.

I have many young British friends in France, with children. They are all discussing how and when they can apply for French citizenship- as they want their children to grow up with opportunities in Europe.

Interesting stats, granjura

So Labour voters DIDN'T overwhelmingly vote to leave - so much for the blue collar army deserting the party theory. The Ukip vote is not surprising, but it looks as though it was the Tories who swung it for Leave.

This is my daughter's Facebook status today:

"This is the worst morning after, ever"

She had EU Erasmus funding to study abroad and regularly hops on planes for weekends to see friends in EU countries. She was hoping to work in Germany.

My son is even more gutted. He wanted to study abroad too, but the funding won't be there.

Neither will want to stay in the UK after this.

I just had a very supportive text from my eldest son - he knows that my thoughts are with him and his siblings this morning, and I'm sure he will be second guessing my concerns regarding the possibility they will now leave the UK - he says he never doubted that my vote would be based on what I believed to be best for the younger generation. He really is a thoughtful young man.

granjura I have already had one child emigrate - I expect to be holding my breath for the next few years as my other children (all with career paths welcomed by other countries) weigh up their choice to stay or leave.

DD I think sarcasm was the name of the game in my last post.

what is so tragic is looking at the stats for age groups. Will the young, that is our children and grand-children, who voted massively for REMAIN- forgive those who voted OUT in our generation - when they lose jobs, opportunities, study grants, and can't go and work in Europe, etc.


Some data:

Wales: Leave
England: Leave
Scotland: Remain
Northern Ireland: Remain

HOW AGES VOTED
18-24: 75% Remain
25-49: 56% Remain
50-64: 44% Remain
65+: 39% Remain

HOW PARTIES VOTED
Tory 43 Remain, 57 Leave
Labour 69 Remain, 31 Leave
Libs 73 Remain, 27 Leave
Ukip: 7 Remain, 93 Leave

He won't be eligible for housing benefit, so he won't have to pay bedroom tax. He'll still be an MP, so won't need to claim JSA.

I did think at the time you posted this thread- be careful what you wish for as it might bite you very hard on the bum....

it has

Oh well. The story does unfold. I will watch, and hope for the best.

Got my wish. Could have done without it.

Will David Cameron claim JSA now and pay his bedroom tax?

I agree with the posts of thatbags and rosesarered and petra and others.

And yes, definitely the soundbites should have been in 5 minute chunks!

If a person cannot make their point clear and succinct in 5 minutes, many voters[millions] like me, switch off.

Gransnet is not at all representative of anything much, sadly. It's demographic is too wealthy and too well educated, and too white, and too many living abroad, to be able to be representative of even older voters in Britain. I am going though by those who speak. Those who are the total membership may be much more representative, but if they dont post, we dont know.

As I have said either on this thread or elsewhere, I dont intend to be on gransnet as much in the next couple of weeks. Safer that way!

We are absolutely split down the middle particularly if you include the young who didn't vote.

Very very selfishly, and totally irrelevant, our 3 monthly transfer of our UK pensions will happen in a couple of days-
we are minus 40% down due to the Swiss Franc dereg a few years back and then .... If we also lose our health care insurance, which is based on reciprocal arrangements with EU- what then?
But much more importantly (we can tighten belt and will pay a LOT less tax) - we feel gutted and heart broken. We always thought we would go back to UK with advancing years- but I just do not want to go back to a divided and isolated (little) Britain.

Furious with DD2 and many of her friends- who didn't bother to register to vote. And with so many young people who deliberately spoilt their paper in protest thinking it was 'cool' to do so - those young people that could have made all the difference in such a close call

Oh granjura what a bloody mess.

'The U.K. Has lost enough money in the last six hours to fund the UK in the EU for the next 12 years! Well done UK you have voted in the fascists!'

from a UK friend in France

The Japanese Federation of Industries has advised Japanese businesses to de-invest in the UK as soon as possible.

The Bank of England has just created £250bn of quantitative easing to support the pound, so that's another £250bn of public debt! He's promised there will be more.

@Ceesnan

But we're all supposed to be eating less sugar!

@petra

No, it wasn't. They read about it in the papers.

Does that mean we will be spared for ever of photos of Dave and Sam holding hands and beaming on holiday? The first positive.