Be totally clued up about the constitutional position of the U.K. and the EU. Essential viewing

dramatictessa, have you watched it now?

Brexit are saying that their preference is to go with totally falling out of the single market, and go with WTO . This means that all trade agreements with the entire world will immediately cease. There are about 70. We have no one in the UK with any experience in negotiating trade agreements. It takes about 2 years to put one to two together. Many countries will not be willing to sign an agreement until they know what our relationship with the EU is. This relationship may take up to 10 years to negotiate.

Doesn't add up does it?

It will be interesting to identify the lies now that we have the facts about sovereignty.
And should the vote be Brexit

Did anyone read the open letter from the Greek people?
Did I see it on here somewhere, or was it somewhere else?
If it was somewhere else, would anyone like me to find it?

The tempting cheap answer is that there isn't an expert with the opposite viewpoint, but that might be unfair.
I have heard Chris Grayling on the radio sounding reasonably sane, also Gisela Stuart, so you could Google them.
However, the appeals to the emotions carry less weight with me than facts, expertise and knowledge.

Quite honestly I almost wish I hadn't watched it as I think Brexit would be a disaster after understanding the legal implications.
Goodness knows what we are going to do.

How can one sensibly discuss anything with anyone who refuses to look at evidence from all sides- especially those who are not politicians and have decades of study and experience under their belt?

luckygirl, do you have a link to a video/article by an expert with an opposite viewpoint? I would actually like to hear/read something with hard evidence for the Leave side.

obioene where on here have we discussed constitutional law?

Actually, obieone, he may well stand to gain more if we leave, as his expertise will be needed in drafting new laws. Legislation doesn't just write itself, and it's also not written by politicians. But, since you didn't bother to listen to the lecture, I won't bother to argue reason with you.

Is there anything different or new on it that we haven't discussed on gransnet before?

whitewave

Oh dear oh dear. Professor Dougan is an Expert in EU constitutional law. Would you prefer to have listened to an ignoramous in EU constitutional law?

These are legal facts - objective facts - evidence based facts. What else do you want?

If you listen more carefully to the first 5 minutes, you will find that his job is very much tied up with the EU. EU law.

That doesnt mean that he couldnt find another job. But he is currently reliant on the EU.

Alea. What is disingenous about it? Please explain.

No obieone he is a professor of law. His job doesn't rely on the EU

Did you listen to it lucky?

What would be the alternative constitutional law that we have with the EU then? Is there one?

His vested interest is that his jopb relies on the EU.

I am starting to see a pattern from those celebs/elite who are saying to vote remain.

Their jobs.

This is the 3rd time you have mentioned the video whitewave.

So I have no problem saying for the 2nd time, what is he saying that hasnt been discussed on gransnet many times before?

I turned the video off after 6 minutes.

....or listened to someone else's lecture that says the opposite!.......

I'm going to watch it again to assimilate it all.

I don't think anyone ought to vote unless they have listened to this lecture.

"helpful", not "hopeful"!!!

I think when obieone asked her disingenuous questions about "power and control," "them and us,", it might have been hopeful to listen to the FACTS not the hearsay prejudices.