Undecideds - have you decided?

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If I had that message it would be another reason to make me want to scream. It's another form of emotional blackmail!

I should have also said people TELLING US how to vote using partisan politics/activism, PEOPLE TELLING us how to vote by using emotional blackmail.

I have been so undecided to the point of not voting at all. So this morning I finally asked myself this question. If I were outside the union and being asked if I wanted to join, the answer would be an emphatic No. If I had known in 1975 (?) that the common market I was so keen to join would become a federal state, would I still have been so keen to join? the answer is No. So with that in mind, I've finally decided to vote out.

made in 1997

www.facebook.com/100003662834496/videos/774761325989288/

It's 5 minutes long but well worth watching.

Out

Talks regarding Turkey joining the EU restart 7 days after the Referendum. Has no one told Mr Cameron that!!!!If you still really have no idea how to cast your vote after all this time, I suggest you don't vote at all because if you just blindly choose one side over the other than you are definitely voting to support that ideology and NOT voting for the status quo.

whatever the result none of us have a crystal ball so the future is uncertain I have a postal vote which I sent off a few weeks ago - my mind was made up right at the start & nothing would change it. as for economists etc even they are guessing we live in a world economy so events in other countries affect us all - if you're still unsure tossing a coin might be the answer. I think result will be very close - won't be staying up all night to listen/watch tomorrow morning will do as I have no control over final result

Rosina i don't think your knowledge of actual history is up to much "we defeated Hitler almost alone......."- absolute tosh. Never mind the USA, what about Canada, Australia, South Africa, India and many other countries not least of which would be Russia. You just can't do things on your own these days. The rosy hued days of the Empire are over. VOTE REMAIN I have. The UK is part of Europe geographically BTW. Don't forget that Ireland is off course in as well.

hildajenniJ: 10.47.25 today. Please tell me your relative didn't just vote Leave because his boss told him too. That smacks of rotten and pocket boroughs to me, something the 1832 Reform Act got rid of.

I voted early this morning, and though still undecided until today, have listened, read and watched what i could to make as good a judgement as i am able and am grateful to have had the opportunity to have my say. I think it will be a high turnout with a close result. Lets hope we can all graciously accept whatever is decided by the majority.

I was undecided in 1975 and in the end I voted for joining the European Community, as it was then. By the early '90s I could see which way the wind was blowing and decided that we must get out as there was a hidden agenda that we didn't know about. Nothing I've heard since has changed my mind, and I'm very suspicious of those so called experts and politicians who want us to remain in.
If we vote to remain the youngsters of today won't know what's hit them in 10 or 15 years time.
I'm voting out.

I'm afraid I can't take Corbyn seriously, he has always been against our membership of the E U, but now supports remain campaign, albeit in a lukewarm way (?) not very true to his ideals then?

We haven't got very good roll models in our politicians.

The only one who has tried to give facts whilst remaining calm and refusing to take part in the nonsense is Corbyn and he has been accused of being lukewarm.

Just going in to vote still have mine my mind up ha ha

First of all nobody asked us in the beginning if we wanted to enter. Now that it is in tatters they ask us! We say yes and they can then blame us as after all we gave them the right to maintain it!!!
The EU has now been in place for a good while and it is clear to see it is BROKEN! And to me they have had a whole load of time to fix it and yet they haven't been able to fix it. If something is broken and unfixable why continue with it . . . seems not only pure madness but totally illogical.
We always had trade agreements previously that we could maintain or not as situations would merit . . . nothing would stop that. Good thing about that was that if a trade deal changed and was not in the UK's best interest we could decide not to enter/continue with these agreements.
Each of us has to use our very OWN intuitive abilities to make this very important decision. And stating your case is stating your OWN feelings, and may or may not encourage others to agree with you.
I got an email this morning saying if I choose out I am choosing Hate and if I choose in I am choosing Love. What a load of cobblers!!! What I really am uncomfortable with is this "if you do this then you are this and if you do this you are that". NO . . . it is just your own opinion and at our age our opinions really do matter.

I find it hard to believe that some of you would rather be ruled by an unelected group of commissioners in Brussels, who so far have treated Britain pretty contemptuously, rather than a democratic parliament elected by the people. Surely we voted for a common market back in the seventies, not a federal state. Who has our best interests at heart, the Brussels elite or our British Parliament?

Vote remain. We have had peace for the last 40 years in Europe because of the European Union. We have cleaner seas and beaches. We have improved maternity and paternity rights and improved working hours and conditions.Immigration is a global issue not a European one. Also something which has hardly been mentioned is about the amount of funding for medical and scientific research, as a group of countries we have access to so many more researchers, scientists and shared funding streams. I regard myself as global citizen and as time goes on the world will feel smaller and smaller. We need to be part of a big united whole not a tiny little island with a tiny little voice. The days of the colonies have gone, we only have finite resources, we need to share.

Not bad lovers...my post above, bad losers! ! Although perhaps the ins could call the outs "bad lovers"!?

The opinions Putin, Trump, Farage, Gove and Mr "I've suddenly changed my mind now there's a chance to be PM" Johnson.
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Stephen Hawkin, Francis O'Grady of the TUC, all the university chancellors in the UK, Christine Lagard, David Beckham and the Green Party.

If in any doubt - safer in.

Out and proud to do so.
We're Merkel's puppet and the government is powerless with politicians ineffectual to make changes.

I have been appalled at the horrible rudeness being expressed all over social media over this. People being castigated if they support leaving, people being castigated if they support remaining. We live in a democracy (at least I thought we did) and we are each entitled to our own opinion and vote. It seems that this referendum has shown people up in a horrible, judgemental and sneering light. It is why I won't reveal how I will vote. Tomorrow, whatever the result of the vote, I hope we will be able to accept the outcome as civilised grow up people and not as snarling bad lovers.

POGS, I completely agree with you about the appalling level of abuse the in which Remain campaign has indulged. I note that on my (small) Facebook page every, single post about the referendum has been a Remain post and they have ranged from intemperate to abusive. I truly fear the level of invective that public debate has descended to. In fact it is not debate, it is a one-sided onslaught of abuse and nane calling from one side only. It happened in the last general election and I swear it was partly responsible for the result. Poke a dog in a cage long enough and it will eventually bite back.

Quiet, polite people do not like to be lectured, hectored, abused and called 'irrational', 'racist', 'bigoted', 'narrow minded', 'fascist', 'Little Englander' and all the rest of the completely unjust language employed. It was indefensible when Brendan Cox conflated the actions of a lone, unbalanced person with the genuine and evidenced concerns of ordinary people when ascribing blame for the horrible murder of his wife.

Yes Mum has said often that the rhetoric reminds her of the 30s.

Be proud and decent vote REMAIN

I voted leave. Just because it would be better for my DSiL. The company he works for asked it's workforce to vote Leave, as this result would give them more contracts and better prospects than having to be tied to the EU. I'm sorry, I can't tell you who he works for.

Be prouder and vote OUT

Well, we have cast our vote now, whether it was the right one or not, I do not know, no-one will until all the furore is over and life settles down under whatever conditions people have decided is best. Thank goodness we were given the chance to voice our opinions, whatever they are, and the opportunity to vote.