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Undecideds - have you decided?

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kittylester Thu 23-Jun-16 07:48:58

I think I'm going for 'Remain' but I'm still not definite.confused

Marjgran Thu 23-Jun-16 10:42:01

Please please be wise - there is a casual fascism around - my elderly friends say it reminds them of the 30s - we need to stand strong with the wisest folk to work together to face climate change and the 65 million displaced people in the world. Bringing up the drawbridge will not protect us from these things only isolate us from the solutions and leave us at the mercy of bigger forces. I beg you to note remain. The only world leader who wants us to leave is ,Putin - oh and Trump

Indinana Thu 23-Jun-16 10:41:02

You beat me to it Seasidenana. Defeated Hitler 'almost alone' indeed. What utter nonsense.

LindaWW Thu 23-Jun-16 10:40:42

The whole of Europe seems to be in such a mess as does our Government. My sense is to throw it all up in the air and see where it lands. I'm voting leave.

whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 10:40:37

Blimey pogs there's cross.

Lilyflower Thu 23-Jun-16 10:39:42

Naked self interest says 'Remain' and principle says 'Leave'. My dear OH has voted but I asked him not to tell me which way he went. I know he feels exactly the same as I do. Heart, head and morality say it has to be to leave the immoral, corrupt and moribund federalising project while the prospect of retiring at the end of the year on a pension decimated by a 'Leave' vote is terrifying. My DD is definitely for 'Remain' and my DS for 'Leave'.

Christalbee Thu 23-Jun-16 10:38:13

Vote OUT!! We do not want the EU petty laws and regulations, stifling our small businesses and small farmers, fishermen who are trying to make an honest buck. The EU favours BIG BUSINESS, and people with economical vested interests and NOT the ordinary people. We need to vote OUT, it's the last chance we'll have for a long time to exit the gravy train that is Brussels. Full up with Ex Presidents, Prime Ministers and nameless Bureauocrats, which we did not vote for. We don't even know what their names are, or who they are, these people shaping our country and our future. For our Children and our grandchildren's sakes' vote Out. When we voted IN in the 70's it was for a trading block with our western european neighbours, consisting of 9 countries. We now have 29 countries and this will not stop any time soon. We are over crowded here in Britain and we do not need the EU to trade with. The FTA will allow us to trade more productively with other countries such as the US and China. VOTE OUT!!

POGS Thu 23-Jun-16 10:36:42

I swear if I read one more bloody post from a remain 'campaigner' TELLING PEOPLE they would be as thick as pig s--t to vote leave, ACCUSSING PEOPLE of being Little Englanders if they vote leave, , TELLING PEOPLE they are racist xenophobes if they vote leave I will vote !eave .

This is the last day and I for one say however you vote thank God you live in a country where the democratic rule of law has given you the opportunity to 'Have YOUR say'.

Seasidenana Thu 23-Jun-16 10:35:41

Great Britain did not win World War Two on our own, it was won in partnership with our allies in other nations. I'm voting Remain as we never again want to see such human conflict on European soil.

muswellblue Thu 23-Jun-16 10:34:12

I am going to vote remain for various reasons but mainly because the vast majority of younger people want it and why should we old gits deny them it. It's not our future.

Cagsy Thu 23-Jun-16 10:32:42

Postal voted to Remain a few weeks ago, as George Monbiot said I'm cynical about the EU and want to see some fundamental changes but I sure want to stay part of it

whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 10:30:48

Landmark buildings all over Europe are bathed in the Union Flag to show solidarity.

luck its called persuasion.

GranVee Thu 23-Jun-16 10:29:14

Definitely in.

MammaN Thu 23-Jun-16 10:27:32

Economists get it wrong all the time. e.g. They wanted us to have the Euro with dire results if we didn't. We didn't and the £ thrived.

Luckygirl Thu 23-Jun-16 10:23:55

I really do think that the suggestion that people who do not know which way to vote should vote remain is manipulative and pernicious. It is nonsense to vote for something you do not firmly believe is best.

yummygran1 Thu 23-Jun-16 10:21:34

Very good point Indinana, I hadn't thought of it like that. I was thinking leave for a while, but couldn't bring myself to vote for anything Farage agreed with!

Rosina Thu 23-Jun-16 10:20:49

I voted in the seventies for a Common Market, not for this frightening scenario. If Turkey gets in we can expect even more immigration that we just can't cope with, and I am NOT a racist, just a realist. 'French economy in tatters, Spain with 25% unemployment (50% among the young - just imagine that one) and as for Greece .... being in the EU has done these countries the world of good clearly, and we are throwing money into this situation by the billion. We are a strong, talented, inventive and tolerant nation. We defeated Hitler almost alone, and we can certainly manage a few trade deals - only about 49% with the EU currently in any event, and we can just up our trade elsewhere. PLEASE vote out - we have a bright future, and can still be nice to the people of Europe - why not?

mischief Thu 23-Jun-16 10:19:53

annsixty, I heard a programme a week or so back which said voting out won't make any difference to the fishing situation because we have sold the fishing rights and if we want to take them back we would have to compensate the country we sold it to, which could be very expensive.

moxeyns Thu 23-Jun-16 10:15:48

Indinana, sorry! (Archaeologist at heart, me smile )

moxeyns Thu 23-Jun-16 10:15:06

That's interesting, Indiana. I haven't seen anyone else make that argument.

Indinana Thu 23-Jun-16 09:54:47

I hope people can read this - I'm afraid some of the text might be too small for smartphones.

Devorgilla Thu 23-Jun-16 09:52:22

Never had any doubt - Remain for me. Heading to Polling Booth shortly and then later, off to 'knock up'.

whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 09:35:03

Yes that's the point! As you seem cheesed off reading this thread.

rosesarered Thu 23-Jun-16 09:32:56

.....but it has absolutely nothing to do with the referendum.

rosesarered Thu 23-Jun-16 09:32:20

I already have done.

whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 09:30:13

Don't read it rose look at the fox thread and mourn mans inhumanity