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Ok, we are out, what now?

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Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 07:49:53

The vote is in, we are to leave the EU. Deep breath, everyone, a new start begins today.

What needs to be done now? No recriminations allowed, no ranting, please. Constructive ideas only for what steps we should take now - we meaning the government, the legal bods, the negotiators, the banks, large and small busineeses, social departments, and orfinary people?

Bear in mind that it will take two years to settle the divorce details, then we have to begin creating a new relationship with the single market of the EU, if we are to buy and sell anything with them, after which new partners might will want to negotiate deals with us. Time scale unknown, but likely to take years. They could be lean years, our credit rating has gone down instantly, and our £ notes won't buy as much abroad at the moment. Better get a taste for British-grown food.

Meanwhile through and after the divorce we have to feed the children (without any alimony, just on our own efforts, and without the inlaws helping us to get orders any more)

The au pairs and the chars will soon go home, which means we'll have to do things ourselves which we used to let them do - look after our aged relations, nurse us after operations, and so on. On the plus side, that should mean we will be needed in those jobs, if we want them.

Welshwife Sun 03-Jul-16 13:47:26

Some picnic tableware you can buy nowadays in places like Marks and Dunelm are made of a type of melamine - the a patterns are more modern too!

granjura Sun 03-Jul-16 13:22:18

When I find myself agreeing with Osborne, Cameron ... and now... Clarkson- then you know something is truly really, tragically, seriously amiss.

Badenkate Sun 03-Jul-16 12:38:29

Ah well Jalima that's why I specified I wanted to have lots of money if I was back in the 20s!

durhamjen Sun 03-Jul-16 12:33:39

What needs to be done now?
Clear our cupboards out and look for melamine?

Elrel Sun 03-Jul-16 11:54:54

Daphne - we got a set of melamine 50 years ago when DD aged 2 started to 'help' with the washing up! I used to rub them with bicarbonate of soda on a damp cloth! My DM once left hers soaking with diluted ammonia in it next to the sink. And drank it later in mistake for bitter lemon. It must have been quite weak as she was fine, she drank lots of water afterwards.
Wish I'd never sent the melamine to a jumble sale, nostalgia strikes again. I have a couple of Bakelite egg cups from the 1950s though.

daphnedill Sun 03-Jul-16 11:50:31

I see you've reached the same state of surreal hysteria as I have, Elrel.

I haven't a clue what's going to happen. Sadly, I don't think our so-called leaders do either. Power vacuums are always dangerous.

Elrel Sun 03-Jul-16 11:48:10

Thread title is from Finding Nemo isn't it? Fish escaped from dental surgery but in plastic bags!

durhamjen Sun 03-Jul-16 11:39:26

Hope so, trisher. I do not have far to move then.
Don't want the Antonine wall. That's too far North.

Jane10 Sun 03-Jul-16 11:38:23

I dare say that some Scots would like to build a wall but most definitely not all!

Maggiemaybe Sun 03-Jul-16 11:38:22

My DD1's plates and bowls are all melamine. They're lovely but can be a tad impractical. We spend ages sometimes when we're minding DGS2 hunting for the one microwaveable item in the cupboards!

trisher Sun 03-Jul-16 11:34:13

If we go back to Rome will the Scots insist we rebuild Hadrian's wall? I think I live the wrong side of it (or right I suppose if Scotland splits and stays in the EU)

daphnedill Sun 03-Jul-16 11:14:09

Personally, I like the choice of goods in our shops and restaurants.

Do you remember Wimpy and the Golden Egg?

daphnedill Sun 03-Jul-16 11:11:23

We had a yellow melamine tea service. The cups were permanently stained brown. The only way to clean them was with bleach.

durhamjen Sun 03-Jul-16 11:08:35

I've still got some melamine cereal bowls. They fit perfectly in the stand for water for the birds.

Jalima Sun 03-Jul-16 10:57:11

daphne melamine tea services are very 'retro' - probably worth quite a bit grin

I don't think the 1920s were all like Downton Abbey

daphnedill Sun 03-Jul-16 10:55:56

It seems that China is falling out of love with the UK.

www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/with-brexit-china-could-be-losing-its-best-friend-in-the-eu/2016/07/01/1d5de592-3ed2-11e6-9e16-4cf01a41decb_story.html

daphnedill Sun 03-Jul-16 10:53:20

Well, the Roman idea is out then!

You've hit the nail on the head about Golden Ages. There's never been one in the UK, unless you were rich, able bodied, straight, male, non-Jewish, white (except Irish).

Jalima Sun 03-Jul-16 10:51:53

Was not were !

Jalima Sun 03-Jul-16 10:48:40

The Roman army were recruited from every area which the Romsns conquered, so from parts of what is now Europe (including Wales) and beyond

I can spell Romans but can't get back to correct it!

www.ancient.eu/map_pelagios/

Empires come and go

Badenkate Sun 03-Jul-16 10:19:36

I am deeply embarrassed by the apostrophe in Roman's.

durhamjen Sun 03-Jul-16 10:18:29

I bet not even Cameron and Osborne thought of that, granjura, when they said that we should do more trade with India and China.

Badenkate Sun 03-Jul-16 10:17:34

Sorry dd, there's a flaw in your return to Rome. According to Mary Beard, who I revere for many things including being totally unconcerned about what other people think of her, the Roman's developed their empire by allowing anyone to settle anywhere and making it relatively easy to become a Roman citizen. So that wouldn't go down too well with a lot of people in the UK.

I guess Golden Ages depend on how much money you have and how little social conscience. Given that I've already thought the late 20's and early 30's looked pretty good. Assuming I had plenty of money, of course smile!

granjura Sun 03-Jul-16 10:14:04

... I am not even allowed to give blood here in Europe- as I might be a BSE carrier as I lived in the UK at the time, and very near to where it all started (yeah- mad cow indeed you may say).

Tegan Sun 03-Jul-16 10:12:09

BSE beefburgers. One of our greatest contributions to Europe. Yummy.

daphnedill Sun 03-Jul-16 10:03:51

Hmm hmm hmm grin

I've just come up with a great idea, which might solve some problems.

Let's give England back to Rome. The Romans never conquered Scotland, so the Scots can do what they want - as can the Welsh and Irish. The UK would have to let a few Italians live her, but we could kick everybody else out. I know that would be a problem for mixed-race people or those with foreign spouses, but I'm sure would sort that out...errrmmm...maybe not confused.

It seems people want to turn the clock back to the 1960s (remember those days? melamine tea services, green peppers and yoghurt = exotic items, rubbishy British-made cars), but why stop there? Let's go back to a golden age! Anybody know of one?