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Ok, we are out, what now?

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Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 07:49:53

The vote is in, we are to leave the EU. Deep breath, everyone, a new start begins today.

What needs to be done now? No recriminations allowed, no ranting, please. Constructive ideas only for what steps we should take now - we meaning the government, the legal bods, the negotiators, the banks, large and small busineeses, social departments, and orfinary people?

Bear in mind that it will take two years to settle the divorce details, then we have to begin creating a new relationship with the single market of the EU, if we are to buy and sell anything with them, after which new partners might will want to negotiate deals with us. Time scale unknown, but likely to take years. They could be lean years, our credit rating has gone down instantly, and our £ notes won't buy as much abroad at the moment. Better get a taste for British-grown food.

Meanwhile through and after the divorce we have to feed the children (without any alimony, just on our own efforts, and without the inlaws helping us to get orders any more)

The au pairs and the chars will soon go home, which means we'll have to do things ourselves which we used to let them do - look after our aged relations, nurse us after operations, and so on. On the plus side, that should mean we will be needed in those jobs, if we want them.

Anniebach Fri 24-Jun-16 23:13:37

varian, same for South Wales except we don't have big businesses coming here, too far on the end of the country

Leticia Fri 24-Jun-16 23:10:16

I hope that I am wrong too.
We should never have been asked. A woman yesterday was voting because she wanted the old style light bulbs back!! (Some hope) A man thought he would now be offered housing- not sure which planet he is living on!
Lots of people are going to be disappointed when it doesn't pan out as they expect. I have signed a petition that wants to hold them to the promise of £350m a week to the NHS (a promise now called 'a mistake'.)I don't expect anything from it- in fact I expect the NHS to die. We are going to be stuck with the most right wing government ever.

Ginny42 Fri 24-Jun-16 23:08:28

I see the petition mentioned earlier has now reached in excess of 300,000 signatures.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

varian Fri 24-Jun-16 23:07:53

Durhamjen At one time I lived in the NE of England - Labour stronghold then .

These people have suffered a lot of hardship - traditional heavy industry declining since the Thatcher years, austerity imposed by the current government, but the one positive thing has been the investment by the EU and foreign companies like Nissan who had confidence in the area because Britain was in the EU.

Why did so many NE voters fall for the Brexit lies?

durhamjen Fri 24-Jun-16 23:05:15

inews.co.uk/essentials/news/leave-campaigners-suggest-pledges-may-not-upheld/

Who else thinks they made a mistake?

varian Fri 24-Jun-16 23:01:30

I totally agree Leticia - it seems to be a lose-lose situation. I cannot think of any way we can possibly be better off. I hope I am wrong.

durhamjen Fri 24-Jun-16 23:01:07

Newcastle was the only place in the NorthEast to vote to remain, and that was only by just over 50%. Durham voted 60% to leave. When Northumberland numbers came in, that was the area that tipped leave over the line.
On the news tonight they were interviewing people from Hartlepool who said that they could not see how things could get worse so they were voting to leave to get rid of Cameron.
There are 20 large companies listed on the stock exchange. They have lost over £1.52 billion in less than a day.
Nissan hasn't said what it is going to do yet. It is keeping options open.

Leticia Fri 24-Jun-16 22:54:37

I can't think of anything constructive at the moment- I am so appalled by what has happened to our country.

varian Fri 24-Jun-16 22:53:03

durhamjen What happened in the northeast?

durhamjen Fri 24-Jun-16 22:16:34

www.thelocal.dk/20160616/brexit-denmark-wont-follow-uk-out-of-eu

M0nica Fri 24-Jun-16 22:15:20

I think opinion polls have shown that anti EU sentiment in Denmark is much wider than just their extreme right wing party.

durhamjen Fri 24-Jun-16 22:11:43

My Danish daughter in law has had lots of phonecalls from family and friends. Denmark do not want to follow us. It's just their right wing party putting out the message. Worse and smaller than Ukip.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 24-Jun-16 22:10:17

That was all to Emily Harburn btw.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 24-Jun-16 22:09:03

I haven't a clue what that actually means in real money.

durhamjen Fri 24-Jun-16 22:08:51

That was yesterday, marion. Today we are sixth, having been overtaken by France.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 24-Jun-16 22:08:05

1.21 today.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 24-Jun-16 22:05:59

1.27 in Marks and Sparks on Thursday.(euro to pound)

M0nica Fri 24-Jun-16 22:05:50

durhamjen, unfortunately, Poland and Hungary have already voted in anti-EU right wing governments and Sweden and Denmark both have a significant proportion of their populations who would like to see their countries out of the EU.

Personally, now we have voted out I think it is quite reasonable for the other governements in the EU to say 'You voted 'out' so out you go. It is what I would do in that situation. I think the Brexiters are over confident in thinking we can make a smooth transition from being in the EU to being out with all the privileges of being In.

I am glad Cameron has decided to resign, nothing personal, I just think that those who campaigned to get us out are the ones that should deal with the results of the campaign they espoused.

marionk Fri 24-Jun-16 22:02:47

Well as it is looking a little bit like some other countries might want to follow our example and bearing in mind that we are the 5th largest economy in the world (so they have been endlessly telling us) I think we should face the future with confidence! Yes there will be some shaky times ahead but ultimately I hope we can regain our national pride and entrepreneurial spirit and make a great job of our future. Onwards and upwards

GandTea Fri 24-Jun-16 21:55:01

So right Bluecat

EmilyHarburn Fri 24-Jun-16 21:41:12

Am staying with friend in Rostrevor Northern Ireland. I found her in tears this morning at the thought of Ireland once more being divided and the boarder coming back. Have been to events in Dublin and Belfast. No passports needed for Dublin.

It might be worthwhile checking out what Gisels Stuart. Chairwoman of bot leave campaign is saying.

We went into Newery to chafe pounds into euros 1.23. About the same. It's the dollar we have fallen against and oil and some other commodities are quoted I dollars so we can expect more expensive fuel etc

Hope we can exit gracefully and set a standard for an 'associate '. Of the European community.

Deedaa Fri 24-Jun-16 21:23:42

DD spent the day in a meeting with colleagues from around Europe who were all sitting round saying "What the f**k have you done?" All she could do was assure them it wasn't her and wonder where she was going to find the millions of pounds funding for research that she has been getting from Europe.

Granny2016 Fri 24-Jun-16 21:22:13

Whichever way the voting went,I wish the winning percentage had been much higher.
It is a difficult starting point to reform with the country so evenly split.

Jane10 Fri 24-Jun-16 21:15:50

Bluecat says it all.

Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 21:12:51

Well, if we don't work together, we will be working against each other and the devil may take the hindmost. The country would certainly sink. "if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand" Matthew 12:22-30