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Ok, we are out, what now?

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Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 07:49:53

The vote is in, we are to leave the EU. Deep breath, everyone, a new start begins today.

What needs to be done now? No recriminations allowed, no ranting, please. Constructive ideas only for what steps we should take now - we meaning the government, the legal bods, the negotiators, the banks, large and small busineeses, social departments, and orfinary people?

Bear in mind that it will take two years to settle the divorce details, then we have to begin creating a new relationship with the single market of the EU, if we are to buy and sell anything with them, after which new partners might will want to negotiate deals with us. Time scale unknown, but likely to take years. They could be lean years, our credit rating has gone down instantly, and our £ notes won't buy as much abroad at the moment. Better get a taste for British-grown food.

Meanwhile through and after the divorce we have to feed the children (without any alimony, just on our own efforts, and without the inlaws helping us to get orders any more)

The au pairs and the chars will soon go home, which means we'll have to do things ourselves which we used to let them do - look after our aged relations, nurse us after operations, and so on. On the plus side, that should mean we will be needed in those jobs, if we want them.

wot Fri 24-Jun-16 10:18:32

I'm not knowledgeable about politics but it feels k like we're a tiny country on our own now. Backward step.

etheltbags1 Fri 24-Jun-16 10:17:35

This has made interesting tv for once. I agree that we must go along with things, stop arguing and face up to the future. Everything changes and we must be adaptable. Im looking forward to the changes. It will bring lots of work for my job

whitewave Fri 24-Jun-16 10:17:17

Well obi the electorate are waiting to see a massive drop to the 10ks and it ain't going to happen.

obieone Fri 24-Jun-16 10:14:46

Many people, rather than choose to educate, chose instead to muddy the waters big time, as regards immigration. They thought it was in their best interests. It was not. They did immigrants a massive disservice.

I wonder if they will continue to do it.

moxeyns Fri 24-Jun-16 10:13:23

Exactly, Cindy.

CindySherman Fri 24-Jun-16 10:09:04

Luckygirl, positive or not, unfortunately Skullduggery is right about what we have to look forward to. It is very hard to feel positive today when some of us don't recognise our country any more. I still remember the excitement I felt as a teenager when we joined the then EEC. It meant we were part of a great idea of internationalism. Now I feel as though we have bolted the door on Europe and indeed the world. My country as I know it has been stolen. What saddens me most is that 70% of 18-25 year olds voted to remain. And the biggest group of leavers - yes, us. I feel ashamed that their future has been betrayed by our generation, as this country has just made the most monumental mistake. Possibly in its history. So, please forgive some of us if we are too broken hearted to 'move on' just yet. The only positive thing would be if I woke up now and it was all a dream - sorry, nightmare.

wot Fri 24-Jun-16 10:08:44

I like Anya,s first post. I was concerned that the immigrants in this country would be mistreated now.

durhamjen Fri 24-Jun-16 10:08:17

It wasn't only the North East that voted to leave, you know. How about insulting some other areas while you are at it?

whitewave Fri 24-Jun-16 10:07:07

So the money men are racking it in and once again we are paying.

mcculloch29 Fri 24-Jun-16 10:03:43

The key factor in so many areas seems to have been fear of immigrants, a wholly unjustified fear given the actual tiny numbers that make it in to the UK.
This is deeply depressing.
We really need to attack the mentality that led to Jo Cox's murder, but this mindset seems to be holding sway.

Not every person who voted Leave is a fascist and racist, but all fascists and racists voted Leave.

The areas of the North East
that voted Leave are typically monocultural with deep levels of ignorance, I know, I live here. For now, anyway.

Lilyflower Fri 24-Jun-16 10:03:16

Oh dear. One of my children is delighted and the other has gone off the deep end and is posting offensive comments on Facebook. We never brought our children up to be rude - or even to discuss politics in public. The Affronted One (offended by the British electorate exercising their democratic right) is taking it all personally and will not now talk to her parents. She doesn't even know how we voted or that one vote cancelled out the other.

whitewave Fri 24-Jun-16 10:02:59

Yes Brexit promised the world now they have to deliver.

durhamjen Fri 24-Jun-16 10:02:58

The legality of the vote.

jackofkent.com/2016/06/five-legal-points-about-the-leave-victory/

carol49cat Fri 24-Jun-16 10:01:13

Yes Breeze!

durhamjen Fri 24-Jun-16 10:00:35

theconversation.com/brexit-is-on-britain-votes-to-leave-the-eu-experts-respond-61576

This is what experts think, for those who want to know.

Mollydolly Fri 24-Jun-16 10:00:28

Britain has always been a country which is strong and brave. If everyone faces this together and pulls together instead of blaming everyone else we will be great again. Political parties in particular need to work together and listen to the people more instead of showing off to the press and tv and stirring up such trouble. Let's have a bit more caring and compassion all round and see what are the most important things in life, it's all too short.

nannypink1 Fri 24-Jun-16 10:00:19

Far too much doom gloom n panic today. Things will be unsettled for a while but we were on our own before the Common Market m EU n managed fine and we will again. Let's have a bit of positivity.

moxeyns Fri 24-Jun-16 09:59:11

My kids have both messaged me to say that they will emigrate. There is no future for them here, with funding for scientific research now cut. I'm watching my pension pot evaporate - I shall be lucky to be able to afford to visit them once in a blue moon.
NOT in the mood to try and put sticking-plasters over this disaster. Quite tempted to bugger off myself.

M0nica Fri 24-Jun-16 09:56:12

Since when did people negotiate when they decided to leave a club? Either you are in or out and if I was the President of the EU or whatever group makes the final decisions I would turn to the UK government today and say thank you and goodbye and pull the plug immediately.

This would put us on the same basis as any other country that does not have any agreement with the EU and the governemtn could then negotiate our arrangements from the base line.

One of the things I found most contemptible about the Leave campaign was the way, if you really examined the leaders rhetoric, what they were really saying they wanted was all the benefits of EU membership without paying for it.

The Goves and Redwoods of this country like to think that this is what Norway has done but Norway has had to be a member of the Shengen Zone (which we are not) and their wealth has little to do with their membership, or not, of the EU and all to do with their careful husbanding of the money that has come to them from offshore oil since the 1960s, unlike Britain and so many arab states who have frittered it away sustaining uneconomic economies.

durhamjen Fri 24-Jun-16 09:55:43

Has Boris given any interviews yet? I saw him being driven away very quickly when reporters were wanting to ask him questions.

gettingonabit Fri 24-Jun-16 09:54:55

A bit stunned, but the future? Mmm....

I'm trying to understand the "leave" decision and analyse it...so, on that basis, I reckon a short-term unsettled time in the markets, leading to maybe a falling-off in house price rises in some areas. So maybe more affordability for people entering the market. I also foresee a dropping off of cheap labour supply which may lead to better deal for existing uk workers in some sectors.

Also less red tape for businesses, which could encourage growth.

Actually, not a cluegrin.

Ruth1958 Fri 24-Jun-16 09:54:41

True strength is keeping everything together when everyone expects it to fall apart. Uk is a strong democracy we will keep it together and go forward

maryhoffman37 Fri 24-Jun-16 09:49:18

I am personally deeply affected, brokenhearted and very disappointed by this result. It is far too soon to be able to feel any positivity. At the moment my Facebook timeline is filled with blame for the over 65s, only 39% of whom voted to remain in the EU. They included me, my husband, my sister and brother-in-law, my co-grandparents in one family (though not the other).

We need time to mourn before we can start to heal.

Anniebach Fri 24-Jun-16 09:45:34

If there is extra money for the NHS Jen, I doubt it

durhamjen Fri 24-Jun-16 09:45:34

Grayling hasn't said he won't stand.