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Ok, we are out, what now?

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durhamjen Fri 24-Jun-16 08:05:41

Hope Cameron says he is going to leave when he talks now.
That's the best thing. Then the Brexiters will have to take over. They are the ones who need ideas.

Pippa000 Fri 24-Jun-16 08:04:18

I don't think there will be much change in the next year or so while negotiations are on going. However the financial markets are usually volatile at the slightest change, and will probably remain so for quite a while until a new PM is elected as I cannot see David Cameron's position being tenable. It remains to be seen how leaving will effect the person in the street. For example there will have to be renegotiated trade agreements and I suspect some European companies will make this as difficult as possible in order to deter other countries from following UK's lead, how this will effect jobs is anyone's guess. The biggest threat I feel is to the present European Union as it stands and to the smaller countries who see membership as joining the gravy train, which may now have been derailed. As someone wiser than me said "We live in interesting times"

J52 Fri 24-Jun-16 08:04:15

Fear of mortgage rises seems to have already affected house prices and sales. So could make things easier for first time buyers.

But higher mortgages and fear of negative equity would also put off a first time buyer.

I don't feel very positive, I'm afraid.

Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 08:01:59

Thank you Ana. You are right, now is a good moment to strike and get a start on a good deal, while the iron is hot and the EU are concerned to show the best face to all the other member states. But who will take the initiative to carry it to them, to be pro-active instead of reactive/ There is not a single politician currently who could be act like a statesman and make such a move. Not in any party.

daphnedill Fri 24-Jun-16 08:01:19

Anya, We could have declared an amnesty on illegal immigrants anyway and we already have a good trading deal. I thought the idea of leaving the EU was to IMPROVE things.

Any more ideas?

Skullduggery Fri 24-Jun-16 08:00:11

Major recession for the next ten plus years, house prices plummet. Mass unemployment. They'll be no NHS soon as it will be privatised.
£50 for a GP appointment suit you?

Yep, the UK's fucked and you need to face reality.
Thank god I've already escaped now the lunatics have truly taken over the asylum.

Last one to leave, don't bother turning the lights out, there's nobody home.

daphnedill Fri 24-Jun-16 07:58:38

I'm afraid I haven't a clue, Elegran, so I shall sit back on this thread and wait for some positive contributions. I hope to see more than damage limitation.

whitewave Fri 24-Jun-16 07:58:04

elegran do you mean us as individuals or us as a country

Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 07:57:51

Same to you, wot There is no future in being dismayed. Put on your look-ahead hat and think what should be done next!

Anya Fri 24-Jun-16 07:57:17

Firstly, declare an amnesty on illegal immigrants and make it clear that everyone who is already working in this country is welcome, needed and should stay and can continue to access our public services. Ask that our citizens living in the EU ar extended the same privileges.

Then the government needs to sit down with EU leaders, who will now be anxious that other countries do not follow our lead, and use this to negotiate a good trading deal.

That's a starting point.

Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 07:56:23

But that is not a constructive idea, morethan. I was asking for ideas, not worries. What action should we take now? ANY of us, those in high places and the lowly rest of us?

wot Fri 24-Jun-16 07:55:52

Dismayed.

morethan2 Fri 24-Jun-16 07:53:17

I'm worried the only thing I'll see is a drop in our pension.we're due to retire in the next two years.

Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 07:49:53

The vote is in, we are to leave the EU. Deep breath, everyone, a new start begins today.

What needs to be done now? No recriminations allowed, no ranting, please. Constructive ideas only for what steps we should take now - we meaning the government, the legal bods, the negotiators, the banks, large and small busineeses, social departments, and orfinary people?

Bear in mind that it will take two years to settle the divorce details, then we have to begin creating a new relationship with the single market of the EU, if we are to buy and sell anything with them, after which new partners might will want to negotiate deals with us. Time scale unknown, but likely to take years. They could be lean years, our credit rating has gone down instantly, and our £ notes won't buy as much abroad at the moment. Better get a taste for British-grown food.

Meanwhile through and after the divorce we have to feed the children (without any alimony, just on our own efforts, and without the inlaws helping us to get orders any more)

The au pairs and the chars will soon go home, which means we'll have to do things ourselves which we used to let them do - look after our aged relations, nurse us after operations, and so on. On the plus side, that should mean we will be needed in those jobs, if we want them.