Corbyn and No Confidence

Not that again.

Nobody asked 30 million people who voted in the referendum which political party they supported. It is only the pollsters who come up with figure after asking a piddly number of the voters.

You even said on one post you could 'tell them' all about yourself to join in the assessment, or did I misinterpret your post?

There could for example be a person who voted for the National Health Party in the General Election but now say they voted Labour to distort the poll finding.

I would have had more respect for Corbyn if he'd said: this is what I believe but I respect that you might vote differently.
So much respect for Wales. They didn't want to 'take the Kings shilling' any more.

So where is Wales going to find its shillings?

Wales will be plunged further into poverty and will be back to having crusts thrown from England's table , this is so hard to endure again

Earlier in the week we were told that all Labour MEPs had signed a letter of no confidence in Corbyn.
This morning on Radio Newcastle one of my MEPs, North East, said that she thought it was not the time to oppose the party leader, so she obviously did not sign it.
So who's not telling the truth, and what do the media get out of it?

Corbyn is still getting on with the job.

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I think Labour MPs should get a grip and stop the soap opera that is so delighting the media. Get out of the Westminster bubble and into constituencies and see what real people's concerns are. That is what they have been elected to do. Rome and fiddling comes to mind. They have blown a great opportunity to provide a strong and sensible opposition when the government is in disarray and is lacking any coherent plan after referendum result. Leave the soap opera to the Tories. There has apparently been a big surge in LP membership since the referendum. I hope this will be a positive boost to the party.

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Angela Eagle said this two weeks ago.

“I was devastated by the result of the EU referendum. Too many of our supporters were taken in by right-wing arguments and I believe this happened, in part, because under your leadership the case to remain in the EU was made with half-hearted ambivalence rather than full-throated clarity.”

This was in her letter of resignation. Contradictory, I think.

If Corbyn resigned the party will be able to move on . I find saying this distressing because I respect Corbyn but he either should resign or get out there and stop hiding behind his little gang . What is wrong with politicians these days, they are terrified of the hustings , must be the TV with an audience they approve of . I was ashamed of the anti semitism meeting yesterday, why didn't Corbyn speak out, no as usual he left it to others. There are good and bad in the Labour Party as in all parties. How can they get the party strong without a strong leader

Anniebach, I agree totally with your post at 11.03. I suspect you feel as distressed as I do about what's happening in the Labour Party. I feel I'm back in the 80's and feel miserable about it.
I'm struggling to name someone who could replace JC and provide the strong leadership as well as the ability to unite the party which feels to be in meltdown. I'm listening to Jeremy Vine interviewing a spokesperson from Momentum. It all feels a bit "we're all good and anyone who doesn't share our view is all bad" . Life just isn't so simple is it, as has just been demonstrated by the outcome of the referendum.

Iam, I am deeply distressed . I don't speak out against Corbyn with joy. I really do believe he is allowing himself to be used and now I am questioning his honesty . I want to know why he thinks he was right to speak to the IRA and Hamas yet will not share a platform with other political parties in this country . I fully agreed when he said we must talk but for me this means talking to all. I am furious how he remained silent yesterday whilst one of his own MP's was insulted by one of his supporters . I thought he was treated badly by MP's when appointed leader, now I am thinking along the lines of - they know him better then I do. Who could challenged him? I am unsure , there are excellent new MP's but lack the experience . The longer serving MP's seem to be putting their careers before the good of the party . I agree with him about trident but the country will not give it up meanwhile the homeless, disabled , poverty stricken need a strong Labour Party to fight for them not a leader who hides behind the likes of John MacDonald , I feel it is he who is calling the shots and I did not vote for him. I do agree with you,life is not as simple as that, to gain power we have to reach out further than students . Don't give up hope

Anniebach I admire your honesty when questioning Corbyns honesty. You could have been held up to ridicule on here for your support of the man. But you have seen that he has no honesty ( yesterday Re anti semitism) and no backbone. Well said.

I speak the truth Petra even though I get flack, if I get ridiculed so be it , I did vote for Corbyn , I thought he would speak out fearlessly but no, I was shocked and angry at the treatment of the MP yesterday , how can Corbyn expect loyalty when he showed none for her , yesterday was important for her , she is of the Jewish faith and naturally emotionally involved . So I am angry

Well said, Anniebach. I really feel for the MP yesterday and then Corbyn compounded it with his thoughtless remarks about Israel. I hadn't thought about his platform sharing, but you are right, he is inconsistent. Definite doubts as to his political astuteness . Sometimes I feel he just likes to take the moral high ground on certain matters, but the broader fight for justice and humanity seem to pass him by.

I'm relieved to see the recent posts here from Anniebacg and Nandalot. I was beginning to feel isolated amongst fellow labour supporters - well, other than all those 170 plus MPs that is. Yes well said Anniebach, short, to the point and I believe, accurate.

Thank you Nandalot and Iam. I am finding all this distressing as all labour members and supporters are. My g grandfather - a church minister - worked with Kier Hardy to form the Labour Party. I do not want it destroyed , so many good labour people have dedicated their lives to the fight against injustice and defence of the vulnerable . We must keep up this fight, no one is bigger than the party , not Blair, not Corbyn . I admit I am singing The Red Flag loudly so will probably get certified

What a pedigree Anniebach!

We seem to live in a period of political nonentities on all sides. I can't see anyone around who has the ability to take control, make decisions and let us feel as though there is someone who knows what they are doing and is capable of carrying it through.

Nothing corrupts like power and now he's there he likes it and doesn't want to go back to his previous Labour existence.
I can understand this but I still think he should be booted out.

We will never find a Kier Hardie again but surely there must be someone more suitable. These days people wanting to change the world for better can join Green Peace or other organisations and don't have to take up politics.

He was a remarkable man Nandalot, I was chosen by my family to inherit his journals , diaries and letters , I know what Kier Hardy worked and died for . His anger and distress over poverty , the treatment of workers . I will annoy some but I will share this anyway. When Hardy was a labour MP the house was asked to stand for a minutes silence in respect of some Royal who had died , they did, then Hardy asked for a minutes silence for miners who had just been killed in a pit fall, he was booed , my g g wrote - he surely is the most noble of men

It was just said on to Corbyn is holding on until Wednesday and the report so he can apologise for Blair taking us to war. I hope this isn't true , only Blair can apologise

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This could explain Corbyn now. Nobody to take his place.

I thought Corbyn wanted to take Blair to court for war crimes. I can't imagine him apologising for Blair.

Jen, I don't mean apologising to get Blair if the hook but to take his revenge on Blair, to rub Blairs face in the mud, and it will up his popularity too, I don't like it