Being blamed

That is a very powerful post Beammeupscottie you must feel very let down.

We haven't left the EU yet. A referendum is nothing but a vote from the people. If we run another ref. and win the EU will be pleased because it will put other countries off messing about like the Brits.

I voted to remain for my children and grandchildren.

Leticia, my favourite niece, has just sent me a personal message from her and her DH and children, to say a huge thank you for voting REMAIN - her dad is Swiss and her mus Argentinian- her DH Portuguese/British and she has triple nationality but lives in UK.

Incidentally, the UK is due to take over as boss next year.
now I didn't hear that in the campaigning

www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/presidency-council-eu/

The UK is due to take over the presidency of the Council of the EU from July-December 2017.

An old codger I know (well, he is older than me) told me that the queue outside our polling station wound around several time, mostly old people saying they were voting Out.
I asked if they had thought about their children and grandchildren and he answered, 'yes, of course they have, that's why they are voting Out'.

a hug from Mutti Merkel and a Gallic kiss from Hollande.
what a threat, I could change my mind if there is another referendum

I voted to stay for the youngsters. I was very angry to hear a 16 year old on Any Answers slagging our generation off for voting selfishly!!! It shows very lazy tbinking on her behalf. I felt patronised and very put out. She obviously has no granny.

We bought houses(expensive at the time) got free university education( only a few). Now we are bed blockers and need hip operations ( yes please.)

Felt very miffed.

Spread the hashtag

#blameCameronnotyourGranny

If you voted out because of "unelected politicians" then well done because we're about to get an unelected prime minister.

If you voted out because of immigration then well done, because you just lost the right of free movement too. Just wait 'til you have to get a visa to go to Glasgow or Belfast.

Posted on Facebook earlier today, well worth a read.

If you voted out because people were "stealing your jobs" then well done, because you're about to see Germany and France "steal" Nissan and a bunch of other companies who only manufacture here as a gateway to the eu market.

If you voted out because you think we'll get a great trade deal with the EEA "like Norway did", think again. Take a look around your Sainsbury's Local and try and find any fruit and veg that's grown in the UK. We need them more than they need us, and like the EEA, we'll have to accept EU policies like free movement as part of a trade deal anyway - except now we won't be able to have any say in them.

If you voted out because of vague scaremongering headlines like "Migrant Crisis" then please, feel free to remind me when it was that Syria joined the EU.

If you voted out because Farage promised £350m for the NHS, then I'm sure you'll be happy to watch him on This Morning revealing that that was a lie.

If you voted out and you're heading into retirement, then great job! Because now the working people of this nation will break their backs to afford your pension without the influx of young, economically active and skilled EU migrants.

If you voted out because you think we'll be better off, the £ has just fallen by 8% against the dollar.

And if you voted out because you love this country, prepare to see it crumble, with threats of a unified Ireland and an independent Scotland just hours after the result was confirmed.

Well done, Britain.

Sometimes you just can't win (ah well... that was proven indeed). Some of us have been accused here of trying too hard to convince that REMAIN was the key to our childrens' and GC's future.

Today a young friend I respect wrote this on Facebook- and I just want to write back 'below the belt- this is so unfair' ..:

'I can respect the fact that people are upset about the result, however, if people had been this vocal during the campaign and voiced their opinions when it actually mattered they may well have changed the result.

Remain supporters were exceptionally quiet during the campaign over social media and in my opinion don't really have much of a right to be bitching about the result now!

Stand up for what you support when it counts!'

You obviously were not hanging around in the right parts of social media Granjura - and of course GN is part of social media and there have been times when Remain supporters have been told off for dominating threads...
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If you voted out because you think London is too full of EU immigrants just wait a while. When we lose freedom of movement there just might be a bit of a labour shortage, particular in the hospitality sector in the SE. But wait a second - in about 6 months from now we will probably be out of the Touquet agreement and thousands of refugees and migrants will be arriving on ferries etc. So it's fine - the Syrians and Afghanis will do just as good a job of running London's hotels, coffee shops and sandwich bars. So don't fret, it will be fine.

@LullyDully

Don't be too miffed. You did the right thing.

That's a classic case of somebody who's picked something up from the media or elsewhere and doesn't really understand it. He's 16 and, according to my children, the role of any 16 year old is to be obnoxious (but we love you really).

I don't think there's any argument that younger people are going to face very different challenges from older ones and it's causing conflict. It's also a fact that the elderly tended to vote Leave.

People need to sit down and discuss things, so that people can understand others' point of view. That doesn't just include inter-generational conflict.

Take a look around your Sainsbury's Local and try and find any fruit and veg that's grown in the UK.
I do try to buy only British grown fruit and veg Alea (apart from bananas and very occasionally oranges and lemons) and we seem to find plenty of variety.

I do remember oranges being very popular when I was a child and that was pre-EU - I am quite old!

We've gotten used to eating fruit out of season and I know it sounds daft, but don't you think fruit tastes better these days? Not only can we buy most of our favourite fruit all year round, we can choose the kind that tastes the best. The choice of apples is huge nowadays and I definitely have preferences.

PS Same goes for vegetables.

The UK currently produces just over 50% of the food it consumes and imports 25% from the EU.

The UK would be daft to impose tariffs on EU produced food, but it's likely to become more expensive, because the pound has fallen against the Euro. This affects the import of EU produced food and costs for UK producers.

The UK could switch to importing food from non EU producers, but that's going to increase transport costs and rely on very low production costs ie low wages in producer countries.

I voted remain I m sad and very angry (if thats allowed) at the ignorant, the thoughtless, the dont know but I ll vote out to get my country back, the racists, the xenophobic My youngest daughters (who lives overseas still in the EU)answer oh turn the tv off and have a glass of wine you cant change anything why worry, so I m mad at her too

Our small business is already feeling the effect of the devalued pound as we pay our suppliers in Europe. It's a worrying time, we're not able to wait for things to settle as some Leave supporters kept on suggesting here on GN.
I would like to wake up from this nightmare now please.
Another thing, a conversation with our DGD 13 yrs old, she has been talking to friends at school, has left me feeling helpless and not knowing what to say without adding to the pressures she already feels. I protect her from so much in her troubled life, but can't protect her from this.
To comment on the OP, older people have been shown in the media expressing very entrenched views, those that love us as individuals know our true position.
I find it too hard to enter into any conversation with people I know who voted leave, the consequences are something we all have to live with.
Thanks to those who do it so well on GN, I am sorry not to have given more support, I am full of admiration for you.

(((Nana3)))

It's all very well people saying that we'll get through it, but there are going be an awful lot of casualties. I hope you're OK.

Oh nana I am so sorry. Chin up all is not lost yet. I hope your business survives the fallout though.

I can understand how you feel Nana. Let's hope there is still a way out of this mess

Oh Nana I am so sorry that it is impacting you immediately - it is the same for us as we live in France. Thank goodness the locals here are still nice to us - which is not the case all over - the Charante have had some very iffy newspaper headlines and posters! But of course we are the migrants - and we do contribute tax like most of the EU migrants do in the UK. We also still pay tax in UK so there would be no extra benefit there to the coffers if we had to return!
Even though the prices are still the same here in Euros we of course get our pensions from UK - all a bit if a bugger really. But as you say the reasons given etc for voting out in many cases were not the best. It is the people who googled the EU after voting and then realised they had made a mistake who are the most maddening. As 28% of the population who were eligible to vote did not that gives a % of less than 40 of the whole population who did vote to leave.
Watch out Dover/Folkstone if they move the border back to UK - and of course Portsmouth but the freight trains through the tunnel are the easiest method of crossing without a ticket. You can travel as a ferry foot passenger from Calais to Dover for about 30€ - not a lot of money when you have paid thousands to get as far as Calais.

I am becoming more and more convinced that those who wanted to remain are actually the majority. They just didn't vote!!!!!

Denial, anger, bargaining........