Being blamed

To go to Glasgow or Belfast, maybe a stab vest.

Thank you lovely people.
There's already news on the BBC this morning about UK border controls in France, they are talking about not doing it, who can blame them.

Robert Harris seems to be blaming Cameron for an unwise referendum call. The second half of the article is the better part, I think.

Yes, hugely insulted. I voted to remain, partly because of the (in my opinion) disasterous effect leaving will have on the UK economy. Partly (and the biggest part of my decision) because my son lives and works in Germany, is married to a German and my grandchildren have dual nationality. The impact on their lives of the UK leaving the EU will be huge.
To be lumped in with 'old people who are racist bigots' as I've seen so often on social media was upsetting and, as I've said, hugely insulting. Not helped by DH voting to leave the EU...

I voted for sovereignty, for our children's right to run our own army, our right not to belong to an ever increasing 'europe' that like it or not will eventually include Turkey and our right not to be governed by a parliament that moves at great expense every six months and has not had it's accounts ever signed off and does not care and proceeds regardless. I respect accountability, moral and fiscal.

Would you join a company of which the auditors won't sign off the accounts and the chairman doesn't care because it's in his own best interests not to care? That situation would never be good for our children, alive or to be born.

I object to some people assuming that all older people are responsible for us leaving the EU.

Some of us prefer to be part of Europe.

Once again I say we're going to hell in a handcart or, as my Canadian friend says, to sh.t in a handbag. Strange expression or not, I get the gist.

how is it known what way each section of Britain voted thought voting was secrete

The ageism on most political and newspaper facebook pages has been disgraceful. People have said that we shouldn't have voted, that we're all going to die soon anyway, that we don't understand what the EU is really all about etc.
It is often said in a post complaining about bigotry and I usually point out that ageism is another form of bigotry.
A large proportion of younger people didn't vote. If they had, it is probable the vote would have gone the other way.
The idea that we should hold another referendum and go through all this nastiness, divisiveness and name calling again is horrendous.

grove1234. They are just going from the polls.

I assume its all traceable as they take a note of our names on the electoral roll and give us numbered voting slips. Its all theoretically possible to find out who, where and what a person voted.

Daphnedill Hahaha thanks for one of the few laughs this week :D

Yes, completely agree that the statistics don't lie, but I've also felt the need to defend myself today. I voted Remain and so did most of those I know in my age bracket. Statistics - huh! I'm fuming at the demonization (strong word, but some of has been) of those of us in particular age brackets.

Someone mentioned problems in Portugal, well they have buckled down and life in Portugal is much better than I think it might be in the next few years in the UK.

it is done now and lets see what happens. If the older generation voted out then they must help with the keeping the UK going.

We might all find ourselves fruit and veg picking! Not joking.

Always blame the parents or in this case the grandparents!
I would love to see the ratio of old to young voters and also the age ratio of the can't be bothered.

Apparently 40% of over 65s DID vote Remain, so hold your head up high if you were one of the 40%!

I was appalled by the article in the Independent that the over 60's have screwed Britain for the younger generation.
Maybe over 60's should not have a vote...what the hell do they know after 40 yrs of EU .
I am really angry with this mindset.
Why not shoot us all at 65 ?????

Jane10,

The voting slips are numbered, but they don't keep a tally of them.

For those who wanted to know how the statistics were compiled:

1 From a YouGov panel - people who were contacted before and after the poll

2 By a sophisticated use of known demographic data from voting wards. The demographic data on every electoral ward is known. Details are held of age, income, educational qualifications, etc. Statisticians then work out that if a ward polls (say) 60% Leave and then compares that with the national average that was because of the skew in the demographic profile. Hope that makes sense. (My daughter - A Level Maths/Stats and degree in Economics explained it to me and I think I understood.)

Must say I feel very proud that DH and myself 'can't be blamed' as we voted with the young ones, for the young ones.

Stats don't lie. If our generation voted overwhelmingly for OUT, and our children and grandchildren for remain- then they have every right to be very disappointed (and therefore blame).

Quite a large number of well educated, middle class young voters didn't bother voting because they were at Glastonbury.

i voted out and i'm not at all ashamed. i never wanted to go into the commono market [as it was then] and that's only developed to benefit other countries [mainly germany from what i've read and heard] and there are countries who actually take more from the eu than they pay in ............... greece apparently takes out the equivalent of what germany pays in.
we have now regained control over our country and we should be looking forward to making britain great again.

I've already had someone on Facebook blaming older people for this disastrous result. How many of the young at Glastonbury bothered to arrange a postal vote? Idiocy knows no age limits -blame it on those who believed the lies peddled by the right wing press, such as The Mail who are now telling us how we're all going to suffer through exiting. Inconsistant or what?

No way is it traceable Jane10.
Ward exit polls will not have been taken very widely - most campaigners were still out campaigning not standing at voting stations asking people how they voted.
In the Count the scrutineers from various parties can work out which ballot box is being counted and then take a sample of the voting pattern for their own party information. Not that easy to do. Its the middle of the night. You have 2 people sitting at a table (with lots of tables). You hover behind one of them and try to tick off how many slips are going into each pile. They sort very rapidly and certainly there is no time to look at the numbers on the voting slips. After you have seen about 100 - 200 counted you have a fair idea of the voting pattern in that ward. The slips are then bundled up into 100s and then 500s and at the end of the night go into the safe keeping of the returning officer.

Now see that my username is appropriate. Voted Labour at last election, got a Conservative government. Voted Remain in referendum, got Brexit. Who represents the interests of people like me ?

And me