Can a referendum be valid if won on lies?

Yes they do I will never give in to lies and deception on an industrial scale. You are wasting your breath if you think that I would roll over and give in. What has happened is absolutely disgraceful and a travesty of justice.

Can a referendum be valid if won on lies If remain had won, the same statement could be applied as lies were equal on both sides. Give in gracefully whitewave Sour grapes do not become you.

Here is a very interesting read:

Jolyon Maugham HOW TO DELIVER A SECOND REFERENDUM

I didn't feel sorry for him as I don't now feel sorry for IDS. Marr has just shown him the poster which said £350m for the NHS. Yet another one backtracking. Another lie.

How can a single person respect any of them?

Whitewave You beat me to it. Very surprised at how hard Andrew Marr went for him.
I almost felt sorry for Javid.

Shahid Javid - backtracking on what he said. "Oh" he says "that is over, we can't be held for what we said in the referendum"

So we can lie all we like and when the decision is made on those lies we shouldn't hold the politicians to account?

Then they wonder and moan about the lack of trust and respect.

Cameron possibly resigned in order not to trigger article 50, there was nothing in the referendum that says this has to be done, he just promised to do that the next day.

The leave voters have created prison ship Britain, they have prevented our young people from choosing to live and work in the EU, older people choosing to retire to countries in the EU. Australia and NZ just accept who they need. The world for us has now become a smaller place. What will they say when a teenager, in the future, says what did you vote.

The Brexit leaders wrote to Cameron earlier this week telling him they wanted him to remain as PM, expect Gove thought he could depend on their close friendship and Johnson as usual just didn't think .

Well he did think Cameron would sort everything out over the next three years , the EU would give us as much time as we wanted to leave, how wrong can he be

Here's another lie

Farage has confidently stated that Britains economic downturn and possible recession has nothing to do with Brexit.

Now I can confidently say that anyone with more than two brain cells is not going to believe him.

The petition is now just short of 3,000,000 and guess what it was started a bit ago by a leave campaigner as a insurance because he thought they were going to lose

The other thing the Brexit camp leaders could do is to ask Parliament to ignore the poor referendum majority they got from 72% of the population and ask Brussels to just please let us play with them all again as we were just having a little paddy!!

It's like the Queen disappearing at Diana's death. She eventually turned up and gave a reconciliation speech.

Not sure what the Brexit lot can say though. Yes I do

"Sorry"!! Would be a good start

My impression is that those who led the Leave campaign did not believe that they would win, have no idea what to do next since Dave , very cleverly (and posibly the only clever thing he has done in the last 6 months), has said he's not negotiating, and are back-pedalling like mad. Where are Johnson, Gove, Patel, Duncan-Smith etc? You would have thought they'd be out enjoying the sunshine of success. Talk about a rudderless ship

How's the petition doing. They can run for 6 months at that rate we are going to run out of petitioners!

We're heading up sh1t creek without a paddle.

If he thought Boris would be the new Captain, Boris looks as though he's just been handed a big bag of dog poo.

jings I think he actually said that a new captain would steer the new course. Of course, originally he said that if if the vote were to leave, he would start the process the next day but he doesn't want the hassle and who can blame him?

just picked up this thread so may have missed this answer Thatbags said you would have to prove the lies Isnt a bloody big bus with 3.5 million for the NHS a starting point

Well if Alistair Campbell said so - it must be true!
sunseeker
(although Alistair Campbell and true should not be spoken in the same sentence)

"Those voting leave on the NHS voted in the expectation that extra money would be found. They've since been told no"

It's worse than that, there was a woman from Burnley on the TV last night who had voted leave because she thought that Remain were going to scrap the NHS.

Frankly if I were him I'd say sod it!

How do you know that ww? He said he would steer the country on to it's next course. He will keep to his word. (Of course you can't expect him to be starting on it today. Give the bloKe a break)

Dave won't do anything he's washed his hands.

We are rudderless.

I doubt very much if a referendum could be run on legal grounds. Even the petition would require retrospective legislation, although even that hasn't been beyond the government .

However, the petition has just collected 2 million signatures. Is any government really going to be happy knowing that there are 2 million seriously pi$$ed off voters in the country? This referendum was held partly because UKIP polled over 4 million, so it's serious number of grumpy voters.

If I were Dave, I'd hold a new referendum. I'd introduce a form of list system for elections, which would inevitably mean some UKIP MPs, but that's fine. Then I'd hold a new election, which the Conservatives would probably win. I'd appoint Boris, IDS, Gove, etc as governors of some far-flung islands and get on with the job of listening to people and getting this country back on track.