As the hysterical left weep into their lattes...

petra- how do you know how deeply some people are affected and feel about it? Yes, some here mocked and derided what I said about feeling 'bereaved', sick and losing sleep over Brexit- but this is how I feel, and it seems I am not the only one- confirmed by the article and by many friends and family. Sorry to say this, but who are you to say it's 'bunkum' (a new word for me,thanks).

The 55% of income lost since we arrived here is not due to share values, or Brexit for the most part, but other factors linked to exchange rates. The Swiss Franc shot up about 40% a couple of years back, at the time the Pound was already on the slide. It did recover for a while- but since Brexit has fallen again an extra 15%. The Pound £ was 2.50 when we arrived here 7 years ago. It was 1.42 before Brexit- but 3 month pension transfer was done at 1.18.

Not good at maths- but can someone work percentage of 2.50 to 1.18 - thanks (from top of head I estimate at around 55%).

@stansgran and petra

Yes, of course your shares are booming. Why do you think hedge fund managers were in favour of BREXIT? They love turbulence in the markets, because it provides opportunities for profit.

Just because YOUR shares are booming doesn't mean that the country is doing well.

No, petra, people who are losing money didn't make bad decisions. They've had decisions made for them, often against their will. It's only a couple of weeks since the referendum and, apart from the immediate effects on money markets, we haven't even begun to see the long-term effects.

I personally know people working in science/IT R & D, who have had research funding put on hold. Do you think they made bad decisions to work and study hard to become scientists? I know of one small/medium company, which is having a serious rethink about its future. I know they've worked damned hard to build up that company. Do you think they made a bad decision? Food and fuel prices are almost certain to rise. Have food and fuel consumers made bad decisions?

I've noticed before that you are keen to flaunt your wealth, when others are down. Maybe it would only be fair if you paid more taxes to support those who 'have made bad decisions'.

Same here Stansgra Re shares. I can only assume that people who are loosing money made some bad decisions.

Well it hasn't changed immediately for everyone "Stansgran". But in our family, we have lost income because of the exchange rate, our son has to apply for Spanish nationality and our daughter has had a major job upheaval. All directly caused by Brexit.

I really can't believe that things would change so rapidly. We haven't even applied to exit yet. And in fact our personal shares are booming. There was a good article by John Trescoe - in the Times about what was actually going on. I didn't save it stupidly but I found it very encouraging.

granjura what you didn't mention was that the majority of comments on the article thought it was a load of bunkum, as did I. Still, you've got to hand it to him as a good excuse for drumming up business.

Sorry obione- I don't understand what you mean in your post- could you explain please- thanks.

And yet the IMF and I can;t remember who else are now saying "Boom Britain" or somesuch.

I've had many e-mails and phone calls from relatives and mostly younger friends in the UK who were really upset and felt sick and so upset about what is happening in the UK- and really concerned for the financial consequences for us personally- as they know we have taken a huge hit.

Yep; I'm still down, as is the S.O. and DD. However, would not be feeling this way if I thought that some people were actually better off because of it. But I'm not seeing it yet.

“Divisions are hardening in some families and communities, some are unsure whether they want to stay here and some no longer feel safe in the place they call home," he said. “These kind of problems following the vote, which are affecting both UK and non-UK citizens, should perhaps be called 'Deprexit' – a condition that can be difficult to shake.“

Mr Gawlinski, said fortunately, therapists have a way of understanding and helping through the idea of a psychological 'rupture', which happens when a person or group of people you have an important relationship with does something that leaves you feeling fundamentally misunderstood, undervalued or excluded.

Read more at www.cambridge-news.co.uk/are-you-feeling-the-effects-of-8216-deprexit-8217/story-29534856-detail/story.html#OX4P3pQOXWChPxRf.99

The other day, I posted to the effect I felt quite depressed and unsettled since the Referendum - and some of you replied that that was 'bizarre'. Well, I am not crying in my latter, as I always have coffee black.

But was sort of 'pleased' today, to read an article in yesterday's Cambridge News- that I am definitely not the only one. The journalist is Freya Leng and the title 'Are you feeling the effects of 'Deprexit'. She talks about Mark Gawlinsky, a Cambridge Counsellor, who has found that a significant proportion of the population feels that way- especially in areas, like Cambridge, where the REMAIN majority was clear- and the result came as a massive shock.

And for those who find my feelings 'weird' - I wonder how they would feel if, apart from the above- they are now at 45% of income, partly due to Brexit. Yeah- that hurts!

Oh, Phil, he said lots of things, he liked his bon mots, and he sometimes said them in French and sometimes in German.

It sometimes works with the computer, but not always Badenkate

It was Philippe of Alsace - allegedly - Stansgran !
www.italiannotebook.com/local-interest/origin-rome-wasnt-built-in-a-day/

I saw a great post on Facebook today which suggested that we turn off British politics for 10 seconds and then turn it on again, and maybe it'll all be sorted out! Made me laugh anyway

And we haven't even Brexited yet!

Rome was not built in a day. Someone said.

Waited for 3 days- but that list of post Brexit achievements seems VERY short indeed. Please.

Anya, could you kindly make a list of things that have been achieved since the Brexit vote. It would help me a lot. thanks.

Excellent post Anya

And look at what has been achieved and less at what hasn't yet been achieved.

No one party has all the answers, all the best policiies and always gets it right. This rigid adherence to one side of the political spectrum is counterproductive.

OK there can be a general principle or philosophy that taps into our own preferred vision of society, but that should not blind us to reality.

ww, I know what you're saying about politicans lying but don't think we can only look at past policies and who/what they have supported in the past, though I agree that is one place to look. Looking only at the past will give us an incomplete picture if we don't also look at their political philosophy.

Look at how much Barack Obama has been unable to achieve, for instance, in spite of his political philosophy, in spite of his efforts to reform certain things. I think we do need to give politicians some credit for wanting to do what they think is right even if they can't achieve it because politics is messy and full of opposition and compromise. And even if we don't agree with their ideas.

It would be awful if the Diwali festival was marred by racism. As BC says Leicester is a well integrated multi cultural city. During her student days, she lived in one of the Asian quarters and never felt anything other than welcome.
Leicester may have voted to remain, but it was close, therefore many Asians etc, must have voted to leave.

However, her second sentence blows her argument for me because she says the UK might break apart because of Boris!

Somehow, I don't think she has been paying attention to the SNP. Nothing new there then

If I could believe that I would be so relieved. Need to see policies first. But don't forget this is a period of leadership elections. We know that politicians lie. We can only look for the truth in past policies and who and what they have supported in the past.