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Who said immigrants have to go back?

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obieone Mon 27-Jun-16 10:41:25

I am willing to be corrected, but has any politician said this?

I have seen it mentioned a few times by gransnetters, but I dont think I have heard any politican say it.

whitewave Tue 28-Jun-16 07:23:03

We should be very worried though, because it is all of a piece and this behaviour will translate into voting for far right nationalist politics if we are not vigilant. What is needed is education.

daphnedill Tue 28-Jun-16 04:30:11

Reporting xenophobia and racism isn't enough. There is no way that the police could deal with every incident.

What needs to happen is for every parent, grandparent and teacher to make sure that children are brought to respect people of other cultures, races and religions. Politicians and the media need to be censured for their comments and to be held to account when there are outcomes. Every single one of us who cares about racism needs to be vigilant and challenge it on the ground.

granjura Mon 27-Jun-16 19:30:34

Totally agree Margaret- not sure what in my posts made you feel I wouldn't.

obieone Mon 27-Jun-16 19:28:02

Everyone should report it when they see or come across it.

MargaretX Mon 27-Jun-16 19:18:25

granjura Whether EU citzens have eventually to go back to their home country is quite a differnt thing to being a refugee.
Refugees are covered by UN rules and if they are asylum seekers and are succesfully accepted then they are OK. Many are not accepted but that is quite another matter to EU ciizens in the UK. I wish them all well and am glad I am not in their place.

suzied Mon 27-Jun-16 17:51:58

57% rise in reported hate crime this weekend.

durhamjen Mon 27-Jun-16 17:48:19

www.change.org/p/home-office-condemn-the-rise-in-racism-and-state-how-you-are-tackling-the-problem-across-the-uk

obieone Mon 27-Jun-16 16:06:58

I agree suzied.

dd, yes, but it is your posts and others on threads over gransnet, that caused me to ask the question. They were not clear that it is not pliticians who have said it, and your posts and others somewhat make it sound like it is.

durhamjen Mon 27-Jun-16 16:01:02

No but the police will be given the hatemail from various groups and be expected to do something about it.
All these people mentioned in the voxpolitical link will know who the racists are.

daphnedill Mon 27-Jun-16 15:31:44

The police do not have the time to deal with every xenophobic/racist incident. It's up to people to educate themselves. Sadly, they will just pick up messages from the media and politicians.

suzied Mon 27-Jun-16 15:25:57

It shouldn't be happening in the first place.

obieone Mon 27-Jun-16 15:19:49

suzied personally I think the other millions of people will help get rid of it, not to mention the law and police.

durhamjen Mon 27-Jun-16 14:59:17

voxpoliticalonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/160627-racism-1.jpg

The population does not always take its lead from the politicians.

durhamjen Mon 27-Jun-16 14:58:12

voxpoliticalonline.com/2016/06/27/uk-racists-emboldened-by-leave-vote-strong-language/

suzied Mon 27-Jun-16 14:47:55

No mainstream politicians have said that, However, there is a fear that post- Brexit racism will be emboldened to rear its ugly head more openly, as it has done already. A Polish cultural centre in London, built to honour Polish pilots of WW2 had racist graffiti daubed on it yesterday . There has been demos outside a mosque in Birmingham, over 100 racist incidents reported in the last few days.

Alea Mon 27-Jun-16 14:37:17

smile

granjura Mon 27-Jun-16 13:49:23

obieone Mon 27-Jun-16 12:06:34

Actually, I think I will let you be.

Please, please, do.

obieone Mon 27-Jun-16 13:20:51

Thank you for that post grannyactivist.

grannyactivist Mon 27-Jun-16 13:11:21

I think that across the country the response to the Leave campaign result is continuing divisiveness, but we have to find some consensus if we are to move forward.

Unfortunately there is a small, vocal, racist minority who misunderstood that a Leave vote meant that immigrants already here would be sent home. There have been a number of reported (verified) racist incidents that inevitably the press has picked up on. This image encapsulates why some people, particularly immigrants, are now fearful of an increase in explicit hate crime.

obieone Mon 27-Jun-16 13:10:16

granjura. I bring things to the light. Which tends to put a stop to it. Job done.

Bad behaviour does not like light.

granjura Mon 27-Jun-16 12:57:14

They will need housing too- where are you going to put them?

granjura Mon 27-Jun-16 12:56:16

Expats in Gibraltar are feeling scared. And the effect on expats in France and Spain has started.

One British friend who has had a terrible time lately for personal reasons, sold her house to a British couple a couple of weeks ago. They pulled out yesterday, losing their deposit- as they are too scared of what will happen to their pension, the £ and healthcare reciprocal agreements.

Some friends had already transfered the money to buy their dream house in the South of France just pulled out for the same reasons.

Two cases I personally heard of, and I am sure they are not the only ones. Those 2 millions retirees in Europe may well soon find they just can't stay because of the above. If they have to come back to UK, they will be a huge burden, as their money has gone, their health has deteriorated and will need a lot of support in many ways- and won't pay tax either, as EU immigrants do, and won't be doing the jobs others won't do either.

Anniebach Mon 27-Jun-16 12:52:49

The police are receiving reports of non British being told I voted for you to thrown out. A politician did not say it, their speeches over the last few months have certaintly encouraged it

granjura Mon 27-Jun-16 12:40:52

Yes, what you do every time. Start a thread to stir up **, troll for bit then b****er off. Bravo, well done.

No politician has said it- but some people in the street, in doctor's surgeries, in front of mosques, in schools- have been saying it.

But most importantly, those immigrants that have shored up our hospitals and many industries and agriculture- won't stay if they feel unwelcome. And won't stay if they can't earn good money for their services. Many send money home to educate their children, or pay for parents' health care, many intend to go back one day, having saved enough to buy their own home back home and security. Why should they stay?

Some are committed to stay as they have adopted the lifestyle and enjoyed it- as I did all those years ago. But how long will they enjoy this if the atmosphere turns sour against them, and their kids are bullied and threaten at school?

obieone Mon 27-Jun-16 12:06:34

Actually, I think I will let you be.