Farage

@Anya

You have obviously not been in the situation where a couple of pounds actually matters - not just for a few weeks, but for years on end! It's not my principles anyway and you don't have the right to sell them. As far as I'm concerned, the UK is a sovereign nation and all that stuff about 'taking back control' was a load of rubbish. The EU is more democratic than the UK and is a better redistributor of wealth in the UK. For the first time in my life, I feel ashamed to be British.

2 excellent posts indeed Tegan.

I do agree that it won't be the rich that will lend a helping hand though#nothingnewtherethen

I don't recall the leave campaign making a point of informing people that they would be worse off; I think that was labelled Project Fear.

I'm not aware that being poor means you have to ditch your principles. In fact, from what I've witnessed and experienced in my 70 years is that it isn't the rich, or religious, who will stretch out a helping hand, it is often those with very little themselves.

That's fine, Anya, if you have money to spare (I really don't), but why should I pay for whatever else other people think is important?

I think more people did realise there would be a knock-on effect on our pockets and accepted that. It's not just about the £ in our pocket.

Indeed Daphnedil and just for starters firecracker, the exchange trip that my DD is doing as part of her degree is now going to cost £250-300 more due to the drop in exchange rates. So, no, I will not get over it. I dont know your personal circumstances, but I wonder if you would feel as patriotic if it started hitting your pocket? As far as I am concerned, the only hope is to have a Pm who is on the Remain side in order to temper some of the more ludicrous statements being made by people like Andrea Leadstrom.

Hopefully not! The choice is horrendous.

It's only been 2 weeks since the referendum for goodness sake, a new Prime Minister has to be chosen hopefully one who is 100% behind leaving the EU.

No chip on my shoulder Firecracker. Just a great sadness that not only have a small majority of the electorate made a decision that will effect this country and the whole of Europe for generations, the decision has been made based on misleading information. Yes, I know we have all said this before, but it is too important to be dismissed as 'bad losership' or whatever. I can likely survive this, although I had hoped for more than just survival, but many will not survive it and will find their standard of living seriously reduced. Building firms stock has taken a plunge, and this is not about giving the bankers/establishment/bosses a bash on the nose, it is about carpenters, plasterers and plumbers losing their jobs. So think on, be pleased with the decision you made, but please do not patronise me by telling me to get over it or to suck it up ( disgusting expression by the way), and please dont tell me that Britain will be great again. I do not think it will.

A few remainers on here have a giant chip on their shoulders in my opinion.

If you work on the basis of being married to a foreigner means you aren't racist Donald Trump isn't racist either!!!??? Bit surreal isn't it!

You can carry on listening to him on radio. He's got his own show as a presenter on LBC.

My impression of him is that he has a giant chip on his shoulder and he permanently wants to be seen as a victim. He seems like a schoolkid who gets punched on the nose and complains about being bullied because he's always winding people up and calling them names.

His championing of the 'man in the street' is a con. I find him odious. (Just my opinion.)

thatbags, yet again you have expressed just what I think too.

Don't 'approve' of Farage (blokey man with pint and antedeluvian views) but see nothing wrong in his party manifesto views and he can't be 'racist' as he is married to someone from elsewhere.

I also thought his cheery, sensible, optimistic and down to eart interviews in the run up to the referendum a breath of fresh air. He kept unexpectedly flooring the opposition with sheer common sense. That the BBC couldn't pin anything negative on him was obviously tying them into knots!

Silly woman; to take back control of course.....

So if there was/is no plan, what the heck were Leavers voting for?

Cameron copped out.

Even if they had had a plan, welshwife, they were not in a position to carry it through. Only the government can do that and the government, which is supposed to have contingency plans for stuff like this, didn't have a plan either. The government is squarely in the blame here, not the Brexit campaigners. Cameron is the one who has let Remainers down by his hastiness and lack of forward planning.

In short, the argument from authority doesn't necessarily have any useful weight.

This has just popped up!

And also, jess, as the tweet I quoted was at pains to point out, some experts talk bullshit.

Thanks for the actual quote, dd. Shows how you can misfudge misjudge a person, huh?

Some people have argued all along that Farage isn't a racist. It's possible that they have a point. He certainly isn't like an EDL type.

Yes, I know all that, jess. What you don't seem to have noticed is that experts also spoke in support of Brexit. It wasn't all one sided.