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Chilcott enquiry

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nigglynellie Wed 06-Jul-16 16:34:21

I think TB as PM should take responsibility as well as the generals for lack of, and inadequate equipment, particularly when it became common knowledge, and perhaps one or two MPs could have perhaps shown a tad of concern. But you are right, the overall responsibility was the MOD and the generals should have refused to allow ill equipped troops to go into a combat situation without the proper gear! Apparently those landrovers were used in Northern Ireland during the troubles, and they were inadequate, to say the least, then, so in Iraq they were death traps and the military knew it! tantamount to murder!

Anniebach Wed 06-Jul-16 16:07:24

That is a first niggly smile . I can!t agree the politicians who voted to invade Iraq knew when they voted about the lack of equipment , the top brass should take the blame for this

sunseeker Wed 06-Jul-16 15:49:46

I totally agree with Anniebach (I think that's a first!). These people put their lives at risk to help, it's our turn to help them.

We now have the unedifying sight of politicians, advisors and consultants trying to justify their actions. I wish they could have heard an interview which was on local radio this morning.

They were speaking to a former solder, the youngest to be wounded in Iraq. He received extensive wounds aged 18 and had to leave the army - a career he had wanted for as long as he could remember. When asked he said even when serving he didn't think they should be there but "it was the job", when asked about his injuries he said he was just unlucky. It was only later when asked how his injuries were now affecting his life he revealed that he had undergone several operations and was due to have another shortly. He has recently become a father and said if he son chose to join the army he would support his decision.

All this was said with great dignity and shames the politicians who put him and his friends in harms way.

nigglynellie Wed 06-Jul-16 15:45:51

ab for about the first time ever, I totally, totally agree with you. To abandon them, as it would appear we have done, is just completely immoral and cruel, but with this particular episode morality was non existent. The generals are as bad for allowing young people to fight knowing that that they were so ill equipped as to be bordering on suicide, just like WW1! For my money, every single politician who voted for that war, knowing the lack of equipment, lack of after planning,MI 6 part in this,(don't tell me MPs didn't know?) is as guilty as TB and should be prosecuted for the deaths of ALL the innocents civilian and military,during that campaign.

Tegan Wed 06-Jul-16 15:25:43

It's the inadequate kit that bothers me more than anything as the S.O. has a letter from someone serving in Iraq asking for something very basic that they weren't given. I'm not saying that other things don't bother me, obviously.

nigglynellie Wed 06-Jul-16 15:17:59

While I agree with you , not sure that name calling is very helpful! Having said that, I'm finding it hard to digest the facts of the report, particularly the part played by MI6! The fact of our troops having totally inadequate kit leading to terrible casualties, it's just unbelievable. I can't get my head round it, the lies to told in order to kill people, no forward plan even though Sadam would definitely be overthrown. just shocking.

kittylester Wed 06-Jul-16 15:15:36

Someone should have counted the number of times he said 'I'. angry

Anniebach Wed 06-Jul-16 15:08:40

The first thing we should do is demand the government allow the Iraqi translators who work for us during that war to leave that camp in France and come to this country

jollyg Wed 06-Jul-16 14:54:53

Listening at the moment to Liar Blair,[ he is trained in the art of deceipt]

We will never get anything resembling the truth from his lips.

I suggest he put all his wealth gained by associating from all the liars/despots in this world, who are on fast dial on this mob, give all the money to the maimed, bereaved, the abject poor of the world he has created.

Thereafter to live in a refugee camp, with all the other disposessed.

OH just seen a big bloated pig with sticky out ears fly by.

Anniebach Wed 06-Jul-16 14:20:51

Hope and pray we will

suzied Wed 06-Jul-16 13:19:42

apologies for misspelling Chilcot

Anya Wed 06-Jul-16 12:56:27

Do we ever?

suzied Wed 06-Jul-16 12:45:16

Will we learn any lessons from the results of the enquiry?