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Andrea Leadsom

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specki4eyes Sat 09-Jul-16 06:42:18

I have to say that, despite her denials, I am disgusted that Andrea Leadsom is using her fecundity as a means to improving her chances of becoming Prime Minister. After what Britain has just gone through with the deceitful and destructive Brexit campaign, can it be true that a potential Party leader begins her campaign by making unfair and unkind comparisons in order to gain ground?
She now claims that her comments have been taken out of context - how can anyone refer to that specific difference between yourself and another in any other context? I despair.

JessM Mon 11-Jul-16 14:14:49

Will we see the Osborne getting the sack too? One can but hope.

GillT57 Mon 11-Jul-16 14:08:23

Agreed daphnedill. Out of all the talking heads that I have listened to over the past few weeks, Tim Farron has impressed me the most. I too would like to see some sort of PR but the problem is that no party, whether right or left, is going to propose it as it would be against their own interests. I also believe that we will never see another referendum in this country as the electorate have shown they cant be trusted to do what they were supposed to do. I do think that there may well be some realignment of parties, the labour party is eating itself and the ghastly Aaron Banks and his cheque book are lurking, possibly looking tempting to disapointed Tory right wing Brexiteers.It is like living through a political drama.

Gracesgran Mon 11-Jul-16 14:00:49

Tegan (Mon 11-Jul-16 13:20:54)

As we don't have a presidential system I personally believe the only democratic solution would be an election but I doubt that many have the heart for that at the moment. Perhaps after she is settled and we can see what this Conservative government is about we might be more prepared for one but calling an election now we have a fixed term parliament is not easy.

daphnedill Mon 11-Jul-16 13:58:34

@varian

Fingers crossed. I'd love to see the LibDems reinventing themselves, especially at local level.

I was just speculating really, because I suspect we're going to see a major realignment of parties. We desperately need PR, so that people have a greater say in the democratic process.

suzied Mon 11-Jul-16 13:57:29

Merkel- typo

suzied Mon 11-Jul-16 13:57:11

I think she bottled out of publishing her tax returns. Thank goodness we haven't got another 2 months of her playschool speeches. If she bottles out over press digging, imagine what she'd have been like dealing with Putin or Metkel.

daphnedill Mon 11-Jul-16 13:56:42

Have you read May's thoughts on Sharia Law or just read what the papers have written?

Dandibelle Mon 11-Jul-16 13:54:45

Theresa Mays thoughts on Sharia Law are very worrying.

varian Mon 11-Jul-16 13:48:12

Labour MPs looking for a party with a social democrat/ liberal agenda need look no further than the Liberal Democrats. Why on earth would they join the Tories?

Even though Theresa May is more acceptable than any of the alternative Tories, she is still a Tory. I wish her well in this horrendously difficult task of becoming PM in the present circumstances, but she has pursued many right wing policies.

This country needs a strong centre/left party to oppose a Tory government. The Liberal Democrats were united in opposing the Iraq war, have a strong leader in Tim Farron and a huge number of councillors and members all over the country who are ready and willing to support the party in spite of the lack of medioa support.

Gracesgran Mon 11-Jul-16 13:47:35

daphnedill (Mon 11-Jul-16 13:27:40)

It all rather out-fictions fiction doesn't it smile I wonder?

merlotgran (Mon 11-Jul-16 13:20:31)
Which group spouting which 'tosh' *merlot'? - just for my claritysmile

daphnedill Mon 11-Jul-16 13:40:40

I'm dreading her giving Grayling a job, which I'm sure she will. Gove didn't really get enough credit for undoing some of the changes Grayling made as Justice Secretary.

ninathenana Mon 11-Jul-16 13:34:59

So glad she's withdrawn.
They are saying on BBC news right now that Theresa could be in Downing St within 24 hrs.

daphnedill Mon 11-Jul-16 13:27:40

I wonder if any of the Labour Party will cross the house, if May really does come up with a social democrat/liberal agenda.

daphnedill Mon 11-Jul-16 13:25:28

Possibly not, but who would they choose? Gove has said he doesn't want to be considered again. Johnson withdrew. Stephen Crabb is hiding somewhere after revelations about some some saucy texts. So that leaves Fox, who only received a handful of votes.

Tegan Mon 11-Jul-16 13:20:54

Is it democratic that May walks into the job without a vote amongst members?

merlotgran Mon 11-Jul-16 13:20:31

I'm glad Theresa May will be PM. I voted Brexit but I'm disgusted with the way Boris, Gove and now Leadsom have bottled out despite what they started.

I, for one, didn't believe any of the tosh they spouted pre-referendum but I'm sure a lot of people did and they might feel let down but I suspect a lot of them won't really care.

daphnedill Mon 11-Jul-16 13:20:28

I think he lives in Number 11, because it's bigger.

daphnedill Mon 11-Jul-16 13:19:22

May's slogan was "A country that works for everyone - not just the privileged few"

We'll see!

JessM Mon 11-Jul-16 13:18:29

Cameron might be out of No10 before you can say knife.

Gracesgran Mon 11-Jul-16 13:12:47

Agree with your concerns GillT57 (Mon 11-Jul-16 12:45:28) so was very glad to hear she had withdrawn. I also think we need someone being seen to be running the country although I am sure it is being. I am glad she ran inasmuch as she knocked out Gove - so I am not unhappy with the result.

daphnedill (Mon 11-Jul-16 12:56:18) I heard TM this morning but am not aware whether it was a repeat of yesterday's or not but, like you, I was amazed at the position she appeared to be coming from. Very interesting times!

whitewave Mon 11-Jul-16 13:02:12

Yes dd also what will the right wing do now? Initially they will look for cabinet places arguing Brexit but will be interested in how strong May is. Keeping you enemies close hasn't worked in the past - look at the fiasco we've recently had to endure.

daphnedill Mon 11-Jul-16 12:57:32

@varian

I hope she doesn't. I hope she doesn't give IDS or Owen Paterson a job either, because i think they would have been pulling Leadsom's strings.

daphnedill Mon 11-Jul-16 12:56:18

It will be interesting to see who she appoints to her cabinet.

Her speech yesterday was extraordinarily 'social democratic' with its promises of crackdowns on tax evasion and corporate takeovers and ensuring worker participation in boardrooms. She also promised QE for infrastructure, which is part of 'Corbynonomics'. If she delivers on those and appoints somebody less Maciavellian to the DWP, she could win back centrist votes.

So will Arron Banks do what he said on Marr yesterday and form a 'new' Ukip? May will probably alienate right-wingers in the Conservative Party, so there might be a place for a more right-wing party, but will alienated Labour Party voters support it?

Well, it certainly hasn't been boring over the last couple of weeks!! It will certainly deserve a chapter in the hitory books of the future. Who knows what will happen?

varian Mon 11-Jul-16 12:50:39

This is good news. Let's hope Theresa May does not feel any obligation to give Andrea Leadsom a job. She is clearly unfit for any public office.

GillT57 Mon 11-Jul-16 12:45:28

Relieved to hear she has withdrawn her candidacy. i was truly concerned that she would get elected as nothing would surprise me after the disaster referendum vote. Those people who voted to leave the EU based on what this cabal had promised must feel terribly let down, what an utter bloody shambles. The Brexit cabal paraded around the country,making all kinds of unfounded and unsubstantiated claims and promises and now they have all left us to get on with it. So much for 'Taking back control'. They were a bunch of fantasists and liars and should be ashamed of themselves. I dont believe for one minute all the 'doing it for the country' fakery from Loathsome, I think it is more likely that there were going to be more revelations about her career and possible her biL with his £800,000 donation to the party. Now the big worry is that these ghastly people get funded by Aaron Banks the UKIP bankroller