Lizzypopbottle to me she has been Margo Leadbetter ever since I first came across her. Read some of her quotes!
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Andrea Leadsom
(210 Posts)I have to say that, despite her denials, I am disgusted that Andrea Leadsom is using her fecundity as a means to improving her chances of becoming Prime Minister. After what Britain has just gone through with the deceitful and destructive Brexit campaign, can it be true that a potential Party leader begins her campaign by making unfair and unkind comparisons in order to gain ground?
She now claims that her comments have been taken out of context - how can anyone refer to that specific difference between yourself and another in any other context? I despair.
Leadsom is an opportunist - pure and simple. If there hadn't been a referendum, she wouldn't have had the opportunity to put herself forward.
It's not just leading on Brexit that is being voted on here, but management of the whole country. Her suggestionargument that a childless person compared with a parent has no stake in the future of this country proves she has poor judgement about what is acceptable and appropriate.
Theresa May has been a Cabinet Minister for several years with a difficult portfolio. She has the ability and experience to move up to the next level.
Andrea Leadsom should prove she can move up to the next level before being given the top job.
I fear for our country if she is PM. I'm afraid she's demonstrated extreme naïveté in her dealings with the media. How on earth is she going to deal with the very tough challenges she would face ? She is way out of her depth. It's not all about Brexit.
It has already. The reporter says she didn't bring up the topic but now has backtracked and said she did! The Establishment is doing everything to undermine her because they are 75% Remain.
Andrea Leadsom is not Prime Minister material.I believe she would do us no good at all.
The BBC issued the interview transcript and it seems that she was not misquoted.
Her CV has been torn to shreds by those who worked with her,and not for tiny exaggerations either.
Others have come forward stating that they in fact were responsible for the set up of Surestart and not Leadsom.
She does not have the political stature or experience required to lead the UK at such a taxing time.
Amber Rudd ,who is her senior colleague,was very verbal regarding the lack of Leadsoms experience,
There are plenty of mums in this country,but to lead it we need a competent politician.
I do not think that Teresa May has done a 100% job as home secretary,but she is by far the best candidate.
Being PM is not solely about Brexit,and a remain voter is not an issue.
I have just read that Leadsom decided she would like to be prime minister when she was 13!!
Hopefully,her ambition will not be achieved.
I think the most worrying thing about her is the complete lack of experience. She has been an MP for something like six years and had only a very low ministerial position. She has ever been to a Cabinet meeting and would obviously need to be chairing a meeting. This then leads on to the role of negotiating the UK leaving the EU - she would need to deal with all the very experienced politicians of the EU. Yes she would have Civil Servants to help her etc but she also appears to be somewhat headstrong and therefore unsuitable. In many ways it is a pity that Cameron resigned so quickly as he would at least know what he was dealing with.
Love your observation about Mrs West, AB! ? I agreed with you, Daphne, and Tegan I bet Mother Theresa was anti abortion and anti gays. (Bit of a dragon from what I've heard...)
I heard today that Murdoch told Boris he had something on him and he couldn't possibly run for PM.
Interesting times.
Anyone know a nice Scottish island that accepts incomers?
Doesn't matter which (witch) of them gets in, they will be both in it for themselves not the country. I despair of them all. We're doomed! (As Private Fraser would say)
Didn't she change her mind from Remain to BREXIT a woman of 'integrity' obviously
I am not a Tory supporter by any stretch of the imagination but I've been impressed by Theresa May since she stood for the leadership.
To quote an article in the Telegraph
"Mrs May says: "If I am prime minister we will come out of the European Union and part of that will be control of free movement. But alongside that it's important to show how we can come through what will be I think some difficult times with a better, brighter future. "It is very important that people see there is at bright future and we can re-engage that entrepreneurial spirit of the trading nation for which the UK has always been known - that dynamic, creative spirit."
"She urges the party to drop the terms "Brexiteers and Remainers", echoing the suggestion by Lord Hague last week that "we are all leavers now".
She says: "It's very important that we unite as a party and as a country. I am very clear that Brexit means Brexit.
"But I don't think we should see people as Brexiteers and Remainers now. We have a job to do in making the best deal we can in coming out of the EU and I am very clear that I will deliver Brexit."
If only all politicians felt the same instead of squabbling about whose fault it is that the majority didn't vote the "right" way and throwing their toys out of the pram - I'd say like children, but that would be an insult to children.
I'll never be a brexiter
. It reminds me of the times when it was dangerous to be a Protestant or a Catholic/York or Lancaster/ Roundhead or Cavalier.
We should remember that the last PM without children, Mr Heath, sold us down the river and took us into the Common Market knowing full well what the future held. In fact, he said that losing our fishing waters was a price 'worth paying' and he lied about the future Federal State it would become.
As someone who voted LEAVE, I must admit I am not too keen on Andrea either but do not trust Theresa to get the best terms for Brexit. I would have much preferred Mr Gove as PM who, I believe, did what he did because he realised Boris was untrustworthy. I hope he gets a senior position on the negotiating team to steer our way out of the EU.
She may be a wife and mother BUT who looked after the children and the home?
OMG Quizqueen - seriously?! Michael Gove?! He who squirmed and avoided the issues throughout the campaign and betrayed his friend David Cameron, then his friend Boris Johnson? I'm not surprised you are proud to have voted LEAVE, clearly having believed all the lies and rubbish spouted by Johnson, Gove and Farage and therefore, with your fellow Brexiteers from Cloud Cuckoo Land, wrecking the sound and growing British economy.
I'm sorry to be so vehement - it all makes me so angry that we have been sold down the river by uninformed people who still refused to listen to all the dire warnings.
Theresa May is a woman of integrity who is our only hope of steering our badly holed ship through the choppy waters ahead.
I am more concerned about other issues - the fact that her CV suggests higher roles that may not match her actual job titles, and that she may be against maternity pay and the minimum wage. I cannot understand why someone who has no cabinet experience has even been proposed.
Where are the wise and honest statesmen and stateswomen that we need now?
I can't think of anyone off hand
I do find it strange that there appears to be slim pickings.
I have no idea why.
Politics not seen as an easy or well paid career? Cant believe I have just written that, but I dont know what else it might be.
Sorry, I've unfortunately had to meet and work with a few 'Tory Committee Ladies' who were ringers for Andrea Leadsom. In almost every case they were far more interested in 'being' (Chair, Director, officer of some sort) than in 'doing' the necessary preparation and hard slog of the job, always expecting someone else to do the donkey-work for them. Even then their arrogance far exceeded their ability, the only thing they were good for was socialising at the golf club or yacht club and thus publicising the cause (whatever it might be) but often to no good effect and sometimes with a great deal of misinformation that was hell to try to put right subsequently. I hate to tar others with the same brush but experience tells me not to expect anything different from this one.
Would the question of children have arisen if her competitor was a man?
She was already going on about being a mother before she was trying to be PM. I couldn't understand why she was making such a point of it
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...I thought at the time that she might have been having a dig at Ruth Davidson [sp]. So, even then had suspicions about her scruples.
@primrose 25
I do not support Leadsom at all,but I believe her stance against maternity leave and the minimum wage is aimed at start up companies of less that 3 workers,and not in general.No one should be on less than the minimum wage,though maternity pay and employing a temporary replacement could cripple a tiny enterprise.
I see the reasoning,though may not agree.
@specki4eyes.
Like myself,many who voted to leave the EU have waited for this opportunity for some years,and were not swayed by a silly red bus and the muppets on it.
Many of us are well informed people who have followed the workings of the EU for decades.Had we been granted the promised referendum on the Lisbon Treaty,it may not have reached this stage.
I freelance for companies in the EU and USA ,so may take a financial hit. I did not vote lightly.
Andrea Leadsom is Thatcher No2: she is as hard as nails and a scary careerist who claims to have a hot line to God. I'm a socialist so in the unlikely scenario that she's elected leader of the Conservative Party I think they'll get what they deserve.
It was they way she said " but I have children!" And then " and they will have children " The tape has been played loads of times and it is exactly as the journalist said. Ledsome is clearly a liar in many ways.
I heard today that Murdoch told Boris he had something on him and he couldn't possibly run for PM.
Disgruntled
I think that could have been the underlying message in THAT EMAIL from Mrs to Mr Gove.
Didn't do them a lot of good, did it.
You'd think Murdoch would be too busy at the moment, wouldn't you!
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