Theresa May

There wasn't even a referendum about going into the EEC (which is what it was at the time). We were already in it. The referendum was about whether we should stay in it.

There was no referendum to go into the EU because there was no EU. Did you have a vote for that, or were you too young?
The Scottish referendum was up to them, not the UK.
Yes, it is advisory.
Have you not been reading about it?

Saying yes or no was advisory?

Was the Scottish referendum the same?

Was the referendum to go into the EU the same?

Annie hate to break it to you, but USSR was Stalinist not Trotskyist and since Mr Gorbachov, the USSR has broken up and Russia is no longer any flavour of communist state.

Ana and obieone the point of the referendum is that it is an advisory document which Parliament should then debate and plan what action to take. This is why more thought should have gone into it in the first place.

Much easier to take over a country subversively.
China is trying to build nuclear power ib this country.
There's a good start for a communist country.
Russia already sells us 10% of our gas. Another good start.
How much do Russian oligarchs own of our buildings in London?
It's not all owned by Middle Eastern potentates.

How many hedge fund managers do you know who have lost as much money as they have made, daphne?

I don't object to hedge fund managers. They deal in futures, which provide a degree of stability to big investors, such as pension funds. Hedge fund managers take enormous risks and can lose as much money as they make. Without them, the markets would be more unstable than they already are.

What I object to is the UK's lax tax laws, which mean that tax can be evaded.

I don't really understand the idea that people with money, especially money which has been earned and taxed, can't also have a social conscience. Some of them don't, of course, and take the line that if they've managed to earn money, so can anybody. That's not true, so I don't see why people who want to give others a helping hand should be labelled as hypocrites.

Here here * Anniebach* but come the revolution, the Rolls Royce is mine.

A trot doesn't want Russia involved in the UK, they want to run the UK like Russia is run.

Blimey, I'll stick with what I know.

10% of our gas comes from Russia.

Shouldn't a trot or a communist want Russian involvement in the UK?
Shouldn't I want the NHS and our utilities to be taken over by the Russian government?
Actually, they probably own more than we do!

Why is that of any consequence?

By the way, POGS, are you forgetting that I have been branded a trot and a communist, or at least a sympathiser?

www.thecanary.co/2016/08/27/tories-unveil-plan-tackle-environment/

I do not understand what your problem is, POGS.
Martin Taylor has said who he is and that he's a supporter of the labour party.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/some-hedge-fund-managers-do-support-the-labour-party-10124420.html

I actually disagree with the idea of hedge fund managers, but that doesn't matter.
If anyone gives money to any party, it has to be declared, and it was.
What I do not like also is the fact that anyone who makes money out of the NHS can then pay money to either party and try to influence.
Owen Smith did that. He even got permission to stand as an MP from his bosses in the pharmaceutical industry.

Durhamjen 22.43

Precisely and Labour were the grateful recipients of donor money!

This is something else that Theresa May is doing.
While all the media's attention was being diverted by traingate, she decided that we were to lose our human rights act.

www.thecanary.co/2016/08/25/this-is-the-bombshell-dropped-by-theresa-mays-government-while-the-media-whined-on-about-traingate/

I like your link, POGS. It mentions United Health.
The CEO of United Health was Simon Stevens, who now runs NHSE.
That's wrong as well.
So not only is our NHS going to be run by the US private health insurance company, it also has links to Russian energy company Gazprom, a large share of which is owned by Putin.

I also keep wondering in general, what is the point of any referendum, if winning it isn't the point?

What was the point of the referendum if it has to be passed by Parliament?

Apparently Theresa May is intending to take us out of Europe without any further reference to Parliament. Someone needs to point out that she is only Prime Minister, not God.

I am not going to say that the Tory Party should not look into 'ALL' their donors backgrounds/associations DJ , ALL Political Party's should!

I am however asking if it is always the case 'any' connection to Russia by a donor is to be assumed as a bad thing or a bad person.

I was reminded of the following Labour Donor when you posted and I wish to state I have absolutely no thought of anything underhand has happened , just pointing out a Russia connection.

www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2015/03/17/labours-donor-who-is-martin-taylor-ed-miliband-transparency/

www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2015/03/20/labours-mystery-600k-donor-martin-taylor-revealed-as-mayfair-hedge-funder/

'Labour’s mystery £600,000 donor named Martin Taylor has been revealed as a Mayfair hedge fund manager after pressure was brought on him and Ed Miliband following publication of a Bureau investigation earlier this week.

He confirmed his identity tonight, three days after the Bureau published an article highlighting concerns over potential hypocrisy on the part of Labour which had been unable or unwilling to give any details about his background.

The Bureau can reveal that Labour’s third largest individual cash donor since the last election helps run Nevsky Capital, a hedge fund based near Bond Street in Mayfair, west London.

It has previously held significant stakes in ' controversial Russian energy companies Gazprom and Lukoil'. And according to its latest filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission in the US, it held $15m of shares in United Health at the end of last year.

United Health, a huge US health insurance firm worth £76bn, is one of several companies currently bidding for a £1.2bn NHS contract for end of life care.

The stakes are under the control of Nevsky Capital and not Martin Taylor himself. There is no suggestion of any inappropriate action by either Mr Taylor or Nevsky Capital.

Nevsky Capital I believe are no longer trading since
the beginning of the year (nobody lost any money!) in London and presumably in Russia? I reiterate I have not one thought that any impropriety has taken place!!

I will be happy to come back to the story at a later date when and if there is any whiff of wrong doing found with the Tory donor, that is the impression you are giving me you feel may have occurred.

Not funny. Read the link.
There are links to Putin and Ukraine. The banks involved had sanctions imposed on them by the EU and the US.
Theresa May is supposed to be cracking down on tax dodging, as shown in the Panama papers.

He likes Tories?