So: what will Cameron's Legacy Be?

gettingonabit, Cameron has been full of soundbites that can only appeal to the dead from the neck up brigade of which there are millions in Britain.

What Cameron really means is that his party have been happily ripping apart all the Social improvements built up by the Labour Government after WW2. In short its been a 30 odd year Agenda of a right wing attack on the State and everything attached to it, which the English havent the balls or the political solidarity to appose........

WilmaKnickersfit, Britain has had the right wing free market agenda rammed down our throats since Thatcher over 30 years ago, resulting in food banks due to cut in welfare.

After over 30 years of privatisations, a rich and poor divide that's getting worse, I would be ashamed to be a right winger, totally ashamed.

Is it just me, or does anyone else think there's suddenly an increase in posters with left wing views? I don't recognise some of the more vocal socialists on this thread.

It was suggested that right wingers do not contribute to threads because if they express a view they are "shot down in flames". A comment was also made that "Political threads are quite leftist. I dislike the dismissal of opinions of others" - rather surprising, given that Gransnetters with left of centre views were sarcastically referred to as being members of "a club [Gransnet] for ageing socialists" (which prompted durhamjen's ironic response) and everyone other than Conservatives were characterised as "bunches of outdated misfits who will self-destruct".

As far as I can see on this thread, aside from those remarks there have been no personal attacks and no "shooting down in flames" of right wingers. There have merely been people voicing opinions that some right wingers don't like.

There is absolutely nothing to stop anyone expressing their views but perhaps people on the right just aren't that bothered about doing so.

If you want to see real duffing up, I can recommend another of couple of sites for oldies.

You would be seriously pushed to find evidence of duffing up on GN to be denied.

They don't get duffed up

DD just denying something isn't a good enough rebuttal. Both sides of the political line get 'duffed up' quite regularly ...at least IMO.

They don't get duffed up. Some people state an opinion as fact and really can't back up their opinions when challenged. Maybe they're used to be people not challenging them.

Or maybe they don't think that a virtual duffing up on Gransnet is the best way to start their day.

Didn't the GN poll show that there are more right wingers on here than left?
Maybe they are just not interested in politics.

No, don't think that's the reason at all,( no need for ducking though) a lot of people have actually said that they don't like the way posts become nasty at times, very few 'go off in a huff'.All the 'left wingers' don't fit the description of 'knowledgable ' either btw.sometimes, far from it.

My take on it is that [and I'm not a hard core left winger, more a LibDem middle of the road voter] is that most people can't counteract the arguments put forward in the political threads so go off in a huff. Because they [and there are exceptions, POGS being one of them] don't have the knowledge to back up what they say #nowduckingbehindtheparapet

Shall we have a 'nicer, kinder way of doing politics'....? ( as somebody once said.)

maddyone may be forgiven for thinking Gransnet ( political threads) are only for Socilaists/left wingers/Labour supporters, as some of us centrist/right wingers have noticed for years.However, it is up to Gransnetters from all parties ( or none) to make their views heard.......unfortunately too many have been shot down in flames on these threads for expressing their opinions which leads them to say something and follow it with 'ducks down behind parapet' at the end ( which goes to show that they expect a lot of flak.)

That was a response to maddyone saying that GN was a club for ageing socialists. It's strange you only read what you want to.
Why are you not complaining about being linked to socialism?

"I find there are far too many right wingers on the political threads"
Perhaps we could have a cull, then we would be dead ringers.

Re Brexit, even Baldric had a plan...

Of course they're not, the point is that they are allowed to be right wing without being told that there are too many of them!

I don't think any of the right wingers are slow in expressing their opinions on gransnet nigglynellie.

They are allowed an opinion! Even on Gransnet!!!!

Oh yes durhamjen, far too many right wingers.

hello anniebach seems like it is extremely difficult for mr corbyn to acquire a cabinet let alone be stabbed in the back by one. At least Thatcher understood that, due to changes in the world markets and the emergence of countries such as Japan, China, Korea etc not to mention the Eastern European countries that are now relocating to the International Health Service of the UK, provisions had to be made in respect of working practices. Thankfully there is no viable alternative to the Tories at the moment, simply several bunches of outdated mis-fits who will self destruct. RIP

I thnk he will be remembered as the prime minister who took the dismantling of the welfare state to a point of no return. I think he will also be remembered as the prime minister who gambled his political future on a referendum and then walked away when it didn't go as he expected. He created a huge mess and should have had a contingency plan when the vote went as it did, and the courage to start to pick up the pieces.

Talking of the EU, you are right about Tony Benn nigglynellie, he was a lifelong Eurosceptic but for very different reasons than those held by Enoch Powell, as he explains in this clip from 2013. Sad to see him looking so poorly but his mind was as sharp as ever. There are many socialists who agree with him, and I have to admit that knowing his views caused me a great deal of angst over my own decision in the referendum.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=f0wFii8klNg

Mrs Margaret Thatchers Legacy :- How one can Become Richer whilst others are losing their Employment, Security, Home, Good Health etc, etc. Not a Maternal cell in her body :- she stopped provision of Milk to schoolchildren. Now we have a high rate of Osteoporosis. Her children were not with her as her Health Deteriorated and she died, They have chosen to live outwith Britain. Instead she was Cared for by paid staff. Her family clung onto her property in Belgravia London, by it being put in the name of an off-shore Company.

She seemed to own things, whilst British Citizens were struggling to have any Quality of Life. As Communities became Deprved through MassiveUnemployment :- Loss of Coal Mining, Loss of Ship Building etc.

Maybe in her Lifetime Britain became less and less Great.

Jeremy Corbyns conversation to the EU was on a par with St Paul's on the road to Damascus, only far less believable! By his own admission his support was at best luke warm! So the thought that he might take us back into the EU is at best unlikely and at worse plain laughable!

gettingonabit

Thanks for your comment. Some of the incidents you mention :- So Funny. Makes David Cameron seem an idiot. Or is it just a Two Faced individual, as the cycling to work whilst being followed by his car ( Financed via British Taxpyaers Contributions) absurd. As what an Absolute waste of Public Funds. The Public are told to consider Ecology :- Just what message was he Pretending to send. Was he implying we should cycle to work, as better for Ecology. Then truth came out that he was doing nothing about Ecology, as car behind him emitting fumes.

You mention possible articulate Speaker. Seems to me many think a Politician's job is to talk. Whereas I believe it is to Govern in a way which is Beneficial for the Majority of the British. As the British Taxpayers are funding salary and Expenses etc :- "Don't Bite the Hand that Feeds You" etc, etc.