Traingate

or this?

From 'catastrophe'?

What's it mean? #thick

New word on the block: Corbynastrophe

Why don't they put on extra coaches (train coaches I mean) - presumably the engines can pull a couple more?

I'm talking daily commuter travel. Which is where the overcrowding hits hardest.

We flew to Skipol last autumn from Bristol, as you can book in on line you only had to be at the airport half an hour before take off, yes we had to get to Bristol which is about half an hour from here as is the train station. The other end we caught the extremely efficient Dutch train to our destination. Whatever way you travel is not going to be good for the environment,but planes are much quicker than trains and take about half the time to get to wherever. Coaches are the cheapest, but do tend to go round the houses!!! Incidentally I love travelling on a train, particularly continental ones, but I would always book a seat!!!!

Sorry re the ruffled feathers.

Why do you think the trains are so overcrowded. It's not because anyone actually enjoys travelling on them. It's necessity.

50 miles for me to get to airport, 50 miles to get to rail station ,

The post was too daft to not comment on.

But that's not the only time it takes.
How long does it take to get to the airport?
How long do you have to be there before the plane takes off?
I never fly, so do not know these,, but I know that when my son's partner flew from Edinburgh to Copenhagen, an extra 3 hours was needed to ensure she got on the plane both journeys, so it wasn't just the time from when the plane took off.
Admittedly you have to be at the right station at the right time, but that's normal. And if you miss it, there's another one soon.

Approx five hours by train London to Glasgow

Approx 1 hour 20 minutes by plane from London to Glasgow

DS flies to Glasgow for meetings ( although his arms do get a bit tired.)

Flying is worst way to travel for the environment, though.
How is it quicker?

Fed up,of hearing about trains, if I want to travel by train to London I have to catch a bus 20 miles, then a train 29 miles to get to Cardiff to catch a train to London

You can always be relied on jinglfor providing the rude comment of the day.
When travelling long distances ( not by car) we use coaches, much cheaper and never found much delays on the motorways.Obviously, if going to work, then trains are faster, at least if they actually run on time or turn up at all.

Not daft at all when you bear in mind that it is in fact cheaper, quicker and more convenient to do what Owen Smith did and fly!! A rather rude and uncalled for comment Jbf!

Usually cheaper than petrol and car parking. And there is the nightmarish traffic queues. Not to even mention the environment.

Sorry, but that must be one of the daftest posts ever put on Gransnet.

I'm always amazed at how many people travel by train ( unless they work in London and have no choice) they are not only busy but very, very expensive.

yesterday DH was kicked of a train ( mid journey) that was overcrowded - the guard (a regular) told him that on the way down the train was so crowded that it was a health & saftey issue & refused to crew it unless people were taken off

don't know what they did going down, apart from removing some passengers, but coming back they changed a local stopper into a non stop train & load of people had to change trains . this was GWR

Ana

Sorry about the "expletive" that wasn't, actually, an expletive.

True, but they are cunning, keep threats etc for Facebook. Who is behind them ?

Definitely. The one consolation is that the security services will be monitoring all their shenanigans.

And getting more powerful Beam, why hold that so called festival event the same week as the lsbour party conference , flexing their muscles ?