Traingate

Pollegrsn, nightowl referred to Momentum then referred to them. . Obieone replied to nightowl and So continued the the use of them, why the need for her to refer to momentum again.

Annie, you are the one who says everyone who supports Corbyn is a Momentum groupie, or a trot.
Why did you mention communism with regard to India?
You know very well that India is not communist, and neither is Corbyn, but you are playing word association games.
Obie doesn't like word games.

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Does anyone think this will work?
It's because of the number of members whose membership will not be allowed because they have used words like Blairite on social media. They are being sent letters now, like the following:

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Well who is them??? All this Momentum talk, labelling anyone who supports Corbyn as being them, or a groupie is just insulting.

I am probably older than you Anniebach, and I am offended by the idea that asking who "them" is offends you and is considered an attack.

Obieone doesn't put people into class, creed or colour, you know very well she was speaking of momentum groupies, how nasty you can be Grscesgrsn, to post such an attack

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Admittedly though, I have not been to an actual meeting. Perhaps you have?

nightowl, but when there are pictures of groups of them, they are predominently young. And when journalists interview them, they are predominently young, but that might be because journalists make a bee line for the younger ones.

The leader of the bakers Union has been suspended

Anya, I can understand it in the young and I do understand the despair many experience what is so frustrating is the fact if they place their hope and trust in him then all that awaits them is more despair. Milliband moved a fraction to the left. Foot went far left. Blair and Brown went centre and won. I am to the left but support the party going to the centre if it means a labour government . I don't care about privatising railways and buses , I care about those living in poverty , the homeless , the people who have to use food banks , what use is Corbyn saying his ambitions could take ten years , people don't know how to get through next week, all this jam in ten years time promise is just fooling people

You beat me to it Ana I need my daughter here, between them my OH and her can practically recite the whole film.

'He's not the Messiah - he's a very naughty boy!'

The messiah. Am I the only one getting images of The Life of Brian in my head, particularly the scene where Brian is running through the streets and looses his sandal. Someone picks it up and proclaims " it's a sign, follow the sandal"
There's another about following the gourd, but I can't remember the detail of that.

AB I do understand his attraction, especially in the current political climate. I see Farage attended a Trump rally and was invited to speak.

No AB it's a very unequal society.

Not India Anya, although the roof of a train is a pleasing thought. Think of those beautiful girls. Anyway do they have communism in India?

What ever their ages they have no knowledge of politics , how anyone can still think he is a winner is baffling.

You are so wrong about the membership of momentum. They are of all ages, from all backgrounds, and a variety of opinions. It may suit some of us to think they are all young idealists, trots or whatever, but I'm afraid it's just not true.

I am not sure that you are right when you say that young members of Momentum will grow up etc anniebach
Corbyn clearly has not.
He seems unable to see the wider picture in anything and has a very narrow outlook on national and world affairs.
Rather worrying in HM Leader of the Opposition.

On the roof...

How about one of those trains in India AB which are dangerously overcrowded, then he'd have to join passengers in the roof

Thanks for that Siberian comment, Ab - first real laugh of the day.

True Anya, I have been saying this daily , yes I know bloody boring , but I will continue to fight for my party and against militancy .

I wish Corbyn would catch a sodding train to Siberia

There's no way Owen Smith will oust Jeremy, he's too light weight. Sadly this is the scenario that will work its way through.

Corbyn will be re-elected which will give the far left (take that phrase as you will) will see it as a mandate to continue and strengthen their stranglehold on the party to the extent it becomes unelectable.

Theresa May, if she's half the politician I think she is, will wait until the disarray is at its peak and call a snap general election and be returned with an increased majority. Either that or we'll struggle on until 2020 with the same result.

I wouldn't mind the SNP being the official oposition, we would be spared the Labour Party looking so weak every PMQ , Salmond could stand his ground against May