Peter Sutcliffe going to normal prison

He wouldn't have to fake symptoms if he was put onto antipsychotic drugs would he though? It would be assumed the symptoms were controlled by the drugs.

He would presumably still be on these drugs in ordinary prison then? Drugged and monitored.

If, he is that ill, was it kind to keep him alive and medicated for so long..........He has cost 11 million pound I hear, money hardly well spent. He said he was on 'hunger strike' for years but is clearly still with us, a dangerous man indeed. Perhaps it is time to consider the value of a life that causes such evil in a different light. He will be fine in jail I am sure, top of the tree and too famous to come to much harm. He will be put with people similar to himself, and he can carry on his 'hunger strike' to his heart's content while everybody focuses on him.

You believe in killing people who are ill and so costing the country money radicalan?

They say that he will be ok if he takes his medication - but do prison officers have the time to make sure that happens. It seems to me that we have too many mentally ill people in prison as it is and that this is an unnecessary risk and burden for prison officers as well as being unfair to someone with a very serious incurable illness.

radicalnan Wow. We need better mental health care and more understanding. Evil is an unhelpful word when applied to people. They do evil things but if you investigate their backgrounds and understand their mental conditions, their actions could have often been prevented or the effects lessened.
Very often better child protection would prevent people growing up to behave in the way that they were themselves were treated or they would not have had head injuries (as it is known that West did) that, added to his abusive upbringing and probable underlying conditions let to the man he became.
That money is not throw down a drain. It pays for salaries which keeps people in work and some of which goes back in taxes. It pays for treatment which gives consultants experience. It goes towards the expenses of running the hospital (not everyone there is a criminal and not all criminals are extreme).
Hitler started by killing the mentally ill and disabled and was surprised that there was so little objection. It gave him the courage to go further.

Sorry that came out a bit garbled but think the gist is there.

Indeed. Considering how stretched prison services are at the moment anyway, I would be apprehensive if I were a prison officer. It seems nobody wins in this situation.

Rumour has it that we've got him. Helicopters about over Durham this week. Lucky old us.

Think there is a big difference between people who are fighting a cause with religious fervour ( however misplaced ) or fhave been radicalised for want of a better word as was the ethnic cleansing of the Nazis and a single person committing atrocities. Not too well put but you get my drift.

Great post Jaycee, seems sympathy for the mentally ill is freely expressed but not if their illness causes them to cause harm. Then they become evil and with luck locked up and given a rough ride by fellow prisoners

Maybe you can fake mental illness but I hope the experts could see through it in the length of time he has been with them. I believe that anybody who murders multiple times has to have a MH issue of some kind

Not rumour. It was on the news that he was being sent to Frankland.
It was also said that he would be a target for the younger criminals in there who want to be top dog.

He's been there since Wendnesday, according to the BBC.

Good posts Jaycee and Anniebach. PS was once someone's precious new baby son and grandson. I do not believe you can fake mental illness over months/ years of being monitored and mentally examined. Forensic Psychiatrists have seen it all before. I also feel very sorry and sad for the victims families. I was a student in Leeds late seventies and early eighties when PS was murdering girls. Extremely sad all round.

How can we hope a person who is mentally ill , has caused harm and so sentenced to be locked away for life will be quite possibly beaten up by fellow prisoners.

Why is it not possible to feel compassion for the victims, their families and the person locked in a tortured mind , is compassion to be rationed ?

Who said they hoped that he would be beaten up by his fellow prisoners?

If someone goes on hunger strike should they be forcefed?

Surely that is against their human rights?

They've been force-feeding Ian Brady for years, but I think that's becaused he's classed as mentally ill, which is why he wants to be transferred to an ordinary prison so he can starve himself to death.

If they are mentally ill Jalima are they able to make a rational decision?

This government wants to get rid of the Human Rights Act.

Well, it hasn't done so yet.

I think he should have been hung, drawn & quartered when he was found quilty of the murders, would have saved the country a lot of money.

We didn't have the death penalty when he was found guilty Jenny, thank God, we hanged too many mentally ill people when we did

Anniebach Can we really be sure that he is mentally ill or just evil and clever? I have great sympathy for the mentally ill, I have a relative & a close friend both of whom have suffered greatly from mental health issues in the past but feel that with the suffering he has caused his victims families and friends he doesn't deserve any sympathy.

Still think Sutcliffe should be in prison, let's have sympathy for the victims. I am sick of people saying murderers are mentally ill, what about the ones who take life and pre meditate murder for pure greed to get their hands on others money?