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The Stupidity of Charlie Hebdo

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jinglbellsfrocks Sat 03-Sept-16 22:59:31

latest 'cartoon'

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Sept-16 15:21:10

I didn't anywhere suggest I "spoke for the magazine". hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Sept-16 15:20:07

You don't have to take anything on board rrr. Try thinking for yourself.

rosesarered Mon 05-Sept-16 15:20:03

Disagreeing is not slagging off.

rosesarered Mon 05-Sept-16 15:19:17

....but since CH like to shock, think this may be all it is.

Ana Mon 05-Sept-16 15:19:05

It was published alongside other cartoons as "covers we didn't use".

That makes me see it in a different light. Someone obviously decided it was either a) too offensive or b) not funny.

(Yes, of course I knew about that, jingl, it wasn't clear to me what obieone meant though)

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Sept-16 15:17:41

At last! Someone else gives their interpretation instead of just slagging off mine.

rosesarered Mon 05-Sept-16 15:17:30

I did read everyones posts, but am still no nearer reaching a conclusion as to why CH did this, I can't take anyones theories on board because it is simple guesswork.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Sept-16 15:16:04

Quoting that post, in case you can't be arsed. "I may be completely wrong. Anyone else got a slant on it?"

rosesarered Mon 05-Sept-16 15:14:41

Naturally our papers will concentrate on a story of British holiday makers, and the Times writer knew the family personally.

ffinnochio Mon 05-Sept-16 15:14:32

My take on the cartoon was that it was pointing a finger straight at the Mafia, which has it's fingers deeply dug into the construction industry. Doubt anyone in the earthquake region would do so, so CH did instead.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Sept-16 15:14:25

That was to rosesarered of course.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Sept-16 15:13:08

Read my post of 13.00.32.

rosesarered Mon 05-Sept-16 15:12:57

Plus I think that most people feel sorrow for all the victims, wherever they are from.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Sept-16 15:12:16

The article in the Times about the well off people, was elitist, concentrating as it did upon one well off group of Brits, with no mention of the native victims.

rosesarered Mon 05-Sept-16 15:11:13

That is just your own opinion btw jingl as you don't speak for the mag.

rosesarered Mon 05-Sept-16 15:09:55

I don't agree with your interpretation jingl at all.The well off family on holiday from Britain were talked about in the press because they were British, that's all.
I think it is just the rather sick sense of humour that CH go in for.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Sept-16 15:07:30

It was intended to offend those who need their attitude shaken up a bit. (The "shock horror! How could that happen to our Italy!" brigade) The ones who don't actually give a thought to the people the earthquake region really belongs to.

Ana the shootings in the Charlie Hebdo offices by the terrorists. Over the Mohammed cartoon.

Maggiemaybe Mon 05-Sept-16 15:03:33

Nope, I'm not convinced. Sheeplike as I am, I find the cartoon cruel.

It was published alongside other cartoons as "covers we didn't use". I believe the artist probably thinks it's funny.

We only have to look at cartoons of Jews in the Nazi era to be reminded that not all satire is on the side of the angels. And that cruelty doesn't have to make sense.

daphnedill Mon 05-Sept-16 14:59:53

@thatbags

It most definitely was intended to offend. That's the whole point.

daphnedill Mon 05-Sept-16 14:58:35

This is a blog written by a Frenchman about French humour, explaining that it's something people outside France find difficult to understand. I think that's an understatement! I speak pretty good French, but I've never 'got' French humour and I think the French find it difficult to empathise with other cultures (hence some of the problems with burkinis, etc).

I think the blog (and there are others saying the same kind of thing) goes some way to explaining CH:

www.private-frenchlessons-paris.com/blog/cliches-of-french/1683-is-french-humour-difficult-to-export/

As a dyed-in-the wool Anglo-Saxon, I still don't find it funny.

Ana Mon 05-Sept-16 14:55:19

I still don't know what 'there' you are talking about, obieone. But never mind...

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Sept-16 14:46:41

Although the people in both places will have suffered equally.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Sept-16 14:45:46

Obi put it another way.

An earthquake in Italy is likely to get more sympathy than one in, I dunno, somewhere in Outer Mongolia, where no one ever goes for their holiday, because of the things we associate with Italy..

Geddit?

obieone Mon 05-Sept-16 14:15:28

Why would anyone want to mock people who have just suffered an earthquake? The premise that anyone would want to be cruel to people who'd suffered a disaster simply doesn't make sense

sociopaths, psycopaths, those types of people wouldnt think twice. We all know there are people like that.

I am not saying that those who work there are that.

thatbags Mon 05-Sept-16 14:14:37

I am really pleased you sussed it, jings.