The Stupidity of Charlie Hebdo

OK. I have now. I have to say I don't 'get' that one. It is very odd.

Have a look.

I haven't seen the Italian earthquake ones.

Really not sure what is being satirised here though thatbags. Nobody was responsible for this earthquake. It was a tragic effect of nature. I think that is why it is so inappropriate, and to me totally unacceptable. The cartoonist should be taken to speak to those injured and who have lost family, friends and their homes. Hopefully s/he would feel ashamed. They should be!

but the disgust is supposed to be directed at the subject of the cartoons

the wounded?

Are you saying that the italian earthquake ones are ok?

I think the CH cartoonists see what they are satirising and mocking as disgusting, vile, sick, etc. That's the point that a lot of people don't seem to get. You aren't supposed to 'like' the cartoons or to find them amusing. They are supposed to disgust you, but the disgust is supposed to be directed at the subject of the cartoons, not at the images themselves.

I am speaking from a position of detachment here, having not seen many CH cartoons. They are not my style. But I think I understand their purpose, their aim. I would probably dislike them as intensely as anyone on here, but I get the point. Seems a lot of people don't.

Cartoons are not all meant to be amusing. Some are just meant to make people think. The CH ones are the second sort.

I felt for the Parisians I know and love throughout the charliehebdo debacle but to be honest I don't think much of the French sense of humour and never have. Generally I have liked Sempé. Struggled with most others.

Not only is the cartoon( can it really be called that?) sick and heartless, but it doesn't do it's job.....cartoons are meant to be amusing.Had never heard of Charlie Hebdo until the 'Prophet' debacle, but that cartoon wasn't amusing either, but did carry a subversive religious point, but this present one does nothing but disgust.

Yes. That's the one Obi.

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It takes a sick mind to produce and publish something like that.

How would they have felt if similar cartoons had been published after the atrocity in their offices?

I wonder what the politicians who posed for that ridiculous photo, think of them now.

Yes, but it's good to know that others think it's disgusting too. Puts back a bit of your faith in human nature.

Neither did I daphnedil for the reasons you have stated. The luxury of freedom of speech brings with it responsibility and it's more than a little disconcerting that they print such things because there are people who do find them amusing.

I could do nothing except repeat what others have said. Why would anybody want to read endless posts of condemnation?

It might be worth reading if somebody supported the cartoon and a spat ensued, but I don't think many people will do that.

FWIW, when the CH were murdered, I didn't sign up to the 'Je suis Charlie' movement. While I could never condone the murders, I also felt that the cartoons which provoked the outrage were vile and unnecessary. I have never supported complete free speech, which is how many people justified those cartoons. At the time, I got quite a bit of flak for having those views and generally kept my head down.

What sort of mentality does it take to come out with something like that.

I've never liked Charlie Hebdo either, they seem to delight in being as distasteful and unpleasant as possible.

Wow! You're well named!!! You've completely missed the point of my thread,but there you go. I'm not having a go at anybody, just expressing surprise that this subject hasn't generated more comment. Cool your head and maybe think before you speak whoever you are!

How mean spirited of you niggly to use this piece of tripe (the cartoon I mean) to have a go at people whose opinions you don't like. For my part, I've never liked Charlie Hebdo and feel that they don't understand the true meaning of free speech - it's not honourable or funny to set out to deliberately be outrageous, it's just tedious.

It just doesn't seem to provoke the same outrage as other threads. This particular cartoon is so offensive, I would have thought many more people on here would have made their condemnation loud and clear! - thats all!!!

I'm not quite sure who you're referring to nigglynellie, but I feel sure that the vast majority of people on here find this so-called cartoon disgusting.

Satire, in my opinion, is meant to make a salient point, whether one disagrees with it or not. This cartoon serves no purpose whatsoever except to evidence the complete lack of humanity of the person who made it and the people who thought it amusing.

I think it's quite sad that the usual vociferous voices on these threads, ones that are so quick to condemn any other train of thought except their own, are strangely silent on this particular outrage!!! Heartless maybe?!! or perhaps it's because in condemning the cartoon,they would inevitably have to compromise freedom of speech. Or do they approve of the cartoon in the interests of freedom of speech and haven't the courage to say so?! If so, is the N word acceptable in the interests of freedom of speech?!!

I have always thought their work was just dreadful.
I read that some in Italy that were I Charlie Hebdo, no longer are.

Even with the notion of free speech and satire the cartoon is cruel and senseless.