Keith Vaz

. That's not the point. How can it not be hypocritical to speak as though being in the prostitution trade is a thing to be avoided as detrimental to the wellbeing of the workers, but then support that industry by buying into it?

I don't understand your reasoning.

Deeda, you have no idea if his wife knew or not, the flat was ten minutes from the family home , she my have known , she may not, I don't know and neither do you.

Do you think the mirror did all this to protect his wife ?

Iam, I do understand why you and the msjority think Vaz deserved this, I do not. A person doesn't hsve to be popular person, a nice person to defend them, well not for me.

What he has done or msy have done in the past, how many properties he owns , thst be msy. be arrogant, none of this concerned me, this is about a man who invited prostitutes into his home , a newspaper was involved , the man had not broken any law yet the newspaper in full knowledge that the man had children published a photograph of the act of buggery taking place. I honestly do not believe anyone deserves this public humiliation, he thought he was safe in his home .

I have no idea if he is homosexual or bi sexual, but which ever , neither is ilegal . I had a friend who hanged himself rather thsn come out, yet we read on here he should have, no he should not if he doesn't want to. And I am so against outing of gays, that's it. in my opinion no one deserved what happened to test man, and for what? A few tut tuttings, sniggers, even glee

Jings I don't think it at all hypocritical to say that refugees and migrants might be drawn into prostitution - there is a great deal of exploitation in this area no doubt. But no suggestion that the male prostitutes in this case were being exploited, trafficked or coerced is there. Prostitution is legal but forcing vulnerable people to be prostitutes is not. Neither is living off immoral earnings or running a brothel.

Anniebach you say it was his choice to risk infection and he could afford to pay blackmailers. But what about his wife? I doubt any of this was her choice and that makes him look an unsavoury sort of person.

Annie, I agree that our homes should be safe but I also feel we have some responsibility to make it so. I am careful to lock the doors in the evening and do a check before going to bed, its the best I can do to stop intruders coming in. I accept if they really want to, they can get into my house.

I am careful about the people I give my address to and I avoid inviting people I think may pose some kind of threat to me. In KV's case, surely that kind of caution would mean he was wise enough not to invite prostitutes into his home. I don't see my view as victim blaming. He is an intelligent man, with responsibilities to his wife, children and to his work. I was a public servant (much lower in the pecking order than Mr V of course) and I knew that I'd to inform my employer if I got so much as a speeding ticket. If I'd been caught out by a sting like this, I'd have know I should resign.

Your certsinly not the lone voice Ism, I hold that title

I didn't say using prostitutes was more acceptable in the home than a brothel, my issue about it happening in his home is the fact everyone should be safe in their own home, makes no difference if one doesn't like a person.

I'm not a fan of the Daily Wail but it isn't the only paper printing information about the allegations against Keith Vaz. Some people here have questioned whether he used poppers, I seem to remember the answer is yes he has on previous occasions.
Like others, I have no axe to grind about his sexuality, that isn't the issue. I've commented previously about my criticism of his behaviour and it seems I'm not a lone voice here.
Why is it more acceptable to use prostitutes in your own home, than in a brothel?

I know.....it's the Daily Mail....?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22145/Keith-Vaz-owns-homes.html

I'll be surprised if KV isn't voted out by traditional Asian voters of Leicester if there's an actual bona fide photo of him engaging in buggery. In the report below, as well as the sexual implications (Muslims are a minority in Leicester East but they disapprove of homosexuality), there's the hurt to his family that may influence the Hindu voters. Some other voters will claim the moral high ground regardless of the glass houses they may live in. He'll be OK financially, I'm sure. Far from depending on his MP's salary, he apparently owns five homes, two in Leicester, two London flats and a nice house on the outskirts of London. He comes second (in property ownership) only to Michael 'eight homes' Meacher on the Labour front bench. Who do these people actually represent?

inews.co.uk/essentials/news/politics/keith-vaz-male-prostitutes-leicester-east-labour-voters/

Judt read your post Jingle, I don't know, not one of us know the truth of the marriage

And. If his wife didn't know he wasn't heterosexual when they married I do think he was wrong to marry, I accept it was more difficult for a single MP at that time but Ted Heath remained single, he did have to cope with the nudge,wink, snigger brigade which explains his very private life and the accusations after his death because he was a single man and Cliff Richard has been the subject of gossip for years ,

That was in reply to ab's latest offering.

Most working people started off life as young Ab. Most have some sort of idea of what they want to do in life.
My point was that most prostitutes don't make the choice themselves, circumstances force them into it. If you think that's a choice so be it.

So why didn't he come out, give his wife a decent divorce - and the chance of a better life without him - and find himself a permanent partner?

You have to admit this was the mucky way to go about things. And he made it into "a party".

I expect he is bisexual, else why marry and have children bearing in mind that homosexuality is not a crime any more. Numerous high profile people seem to manage their private lives perfectly successfully regardless of their sexuality without resorting to squalid dalliances with heaven knows who, laying tbemselves wide open to blackmail,ridicule,and disgust; Never mind loss of respect and importance. Mr Vaz is an arrogant fool, which has finally brought him down, not before time it would appear.

Obieone, I do not think adultery is acceptable, i do think MP's should hsve a private life and shouldn't be deselected if they have affairs, .

What troubles me about this scandal is the sexuality of Vaz, it must be awful to be gay and not come out, easy to say it's acceptable in 2016 it was not In the eighties and nineties . I also think everyone should be allowed privacy in their own home. If he had been photographed entering a brothel but he was in his home

I would say the same no matter which party the MP was a member of.

Whi said they were young boys?

I am surprised that you do not want the behaviour of MPs to be of a better standard than that exhibited by Keith Vaz, ab.

I suppose that some young girls and boys joyfully regard having sex with all sorts of revolting people as a good career move.
OK I know that they aren't all revolting but I bet most of them are!
Most of them are in that profession( in my opinion) because circumstances, not usually happy, have put them there.

If a person chooses prostituation to earn a living their choice. If a person is forced into prostitution , not their choice.

A law stating all prostitutes must be British perhaps? Try working out the difference between choice and no choice Jingle

Give it up Annie. You are defending the indefensible.

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